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Packers’ win streak ends in 38-10 loss to Giants

Posted by Vic Ketchman, packers.com editor on November 25, 2012 – 10:31 pm

Green Bay Packers cornerback Jarrett Bush makes a tackle

EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J.–The Packers’ five-game winning streak came to an abrupt halt at MetLife Stadium on Sunday night, in a 38-10 loss to the Super Bowl-champion New York Giants.

Eli Manning threw three touchdown passes and the Giants’ vaunted front four sacked Aaron Rodgers five times and forced a fumble the Giants converted into a touchdown that turned the game decidedly in the Giants’ favor just before halftime.

Rodgers was out-pointed by the opposing quarterback for one of the few times in the last three years. Rodgers completed 14 of 25 passes for 219 yards, one touchdown and one interception. His night ended when he was replaced by Graham Harrell for the final five minutes of the game.

The loss leaves the Packers, 7-4, a game behind the Chicago Bears in the NFC North title race. The Bears had beaten the Vikings earlier in the day.

Very little worked for the Packers. The Giants were even able to hold the red-hot Rodgers to Randall Cobb pass combination to 39 yards.

Meanwhile, the Giants rushed for nearly 150 yards and dominated the line of scrimmage.

The Packers were playing without stars Clay Matthews and Greg Jennings. It’s hoped both will be able to return for next Sunday’s game against the visiting Vikings.

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111 Responses to “Packers’ win streak ends in 38-10 loss to Giants”

  1. By Junior on Nov 25, 2012 | Reply

    well that’s it packers the giants are better then you again!!!! this sucks!!! thanks for a disappointing loss and maybe the season…. WE NEED BETTER COACHING STAFF

  2. By Rob on Nov 25, 2012 | Reply

    Well…on the bright side, we couldn’t have done any worse….

  3. By jeff on Nov 25, 2012 | Reply

    Note to Ted Thompson: Please address o-line next year,
    Newhouse is not making it!!!

  4. By amac11cc on Nov 25, 2012 | Reply

    Comon Vic spin this one. All that talk about hey they have won 5 in row and a win is a win. They got dominated and the one glaring hole that they have had for 2 years now is the O-line. Say it, play it any way you want but the Packers are not going to win a super bowl with their sub par, almost last in the league O-line. They can not beat the giants, 49ers or flacons with that sorry excuse for a front 5.

  5. By Eric on Nov 25, 2012 | Reply

    Ugly loss but we’ll be back. I know a lot of “fans” are going to curse the coaches and demand that they be fired. A loss like this happens to any team. We got knocked down, but we’ll bounce back. Have faith. Minnesota will pay for this. GO PACK GO!!!!

  6. By trevor cook on Nov 25, 2012 | Reply

    pathetic game when is McCarthy going to realize our running game sucks and our d is hurt we won the super Bowl cause we can score 32 a game we can’t do that with Rodgers getting killed bootleg hom take the early lead and let the d blitz like they did when they won the super bowl

  7. By Ryan on Nov 25, 2012 | Reply

    I agree. No passion from the coaches.It clearly reflects on the players, including Rodgers. They can say what they want about this game but when it comes down to it, the Packers did not look like they wanted to win and that reflects directly on the coaching staff. There were more than enough reasons to get fired up for this game and instead Green Bay let a mediocre and inconsistent Giants team walk all over them. Again. Poor play calling coupled with unmotivated players and injuries is a recipe for disaster. Pack might be 7-4, but something isn’t right with them this year. I don’t wanna believe it, but it’s true. Get it fixed!

  8. By Roxy Hoda on Nov 25, 2012 | Reply

    Every team has a bad game. Unlike most teams, we are not used to getting our butt kicked. It has been what, 7 years since we have lost by 28 or more points?(rough estimate) But anyways, maybe this will shake things up in the locker room and we will be ready to kick some VIQUEENS butt next week!!

  9. By Dave Burda on Nov 25, 2012 | Reply

    This loss reveals McCarthy’s arrogance and ignorance. The playoff loss was no fluke, Mike. You should have game planned better for tonight’s game.

  10. By Jake on Nov 25, 2012 | Reply

    It was hard to watch that game. It remind of that playoff game last year

  11. By Oldtiger on Nov 25, 2012 | Reply

    What a pathetic effort. Have not see that bad of line play since the 70’s & 80’s.

  12. By AG on Nov 25, 2012 | Reply

    I have been a fan for many many years and this hurt worse than last years loss to the Giants.

    I guess the team really doesn’t see the sense of any urgency to win.

    This was the worse coaching job I’ve seen all year.

    Coach McCarthy, your way to soft and your play calling well that speaks for itself.
    As for the Dom Capers elite defence, there was none.

    This loss was a total embarrassment!!!!!!!!!!

    In my opinion worse than the Jets loss to the Patriots.

    Let get rid of the whiskers!

    I can only hope something good will come of this!


  13. By Jz100 on Nov 25, 2012 | Reply

    I have been a supporter of McCarthy, but I think it’s time the entire coaching staff is replaced. The offensive line has had this problem for years, being unable to run block or protect the quarterback. The coaches play calling has been awful as well.

    The entire team looked awful. Playing like this, they won’t win another game this season.

    They need to at least bring back Clifton and Tauscher.

  14. By Scott 1956 on Nov 25, 2012 | Reply

    amac11cc, Everything you said was spot on. Everytime I state that the O-Line is terrible, people on here argue and complain that I’m not a true fan. So I will say it once more. This Offensive line is terrible! This team will not be able to go very far with that line! If the Packers are lucky, they may be able to win one game in the playoffs. But with the Giants and 49ers and Falcons, I cannot see them winning two. Too many good Defensive Lines.

  15. By trevor cook on Nov 25, 2012 | Reply

    pathetic game when is McCarthy going to realize our running game sucks and our d is hurt we won the super Bowl cause we can score 32 a game we can’t do that with Rodgers getting killed bootleg hom take the early lead and let the d blitz like they did when they won the super

  16. By Junior on Nov 25, 2012 | Reply

    just watched McCarthy talk after losing the game he seems like he doesn’t care. and in shock yeah he was in shock cause he was just OUT COACHED!!!

  17. By Dennis Richards on Nov 25, 2012 | Reply

    The Packers lose due to very poor decision by Coach McCarthy in first quarter!
    Why try a 55 yard kick instead of the more promising 4th down and 5 to go?

    Chances are better at getting the first down than the kick being made! Also, why start with a 55 yrd attempt if you want to give your kicker a chance to gain some confidence? Also, if you miss the kick, you give the momentum and the ball to the Giants in great field position (45 yd line) instead of around the 32 – 35 yrd line. This decision was the beginning of the end!

    The Packers lost this game in a big way… but you cannot give the momentum to the giants in the first quarter in such a game!

    For the most part, anytime you have the ball 4th and 10 or less between the 38 & 30 yard lines, go for the first down! Duh!
    Packers are still in good shape for the playoffs. Go Pack!

  18. By Mathew on Nov 25, 2012 | Reply

    That was embarrassing to watch. This is why all of us fans weren’t completely satisfied even when the Packers were winning. When you barely beat below average teams, you get destroyed by good teams like the Giants. This kind of play won’t suffice come playoff time. As a shareholder, I feel cheated. This team has arguably the best talent in the league and they fail to play like it. The O-line his terrible, the defense looks uninterested and slow, and don’t get me started on the coaching. Ever since Joe Philbin has left, offense hasn’t been the same. Where are the deep passes? Dom Capers is running a horrible defense. And it doesn’t help that our biggest play-makers are out but that is still no excuse for 38 points. Mike McCarthy is calling the most predictable games. Aaron Rodgers is holding onto the ball for ages. The whole team just seems to not be on the same schedule. It seriously didn’t even look like they’ve been practicing. They need to start playing with some intensity. I’m so disappointed in this team right now.

  19. By Ryan on Nov 25, 2012 | Reply

    Very pathetic. I feared this game could get out of hand like the playoff game last year and that’s exactly what happened. People will say that every team has a bad game like this but the true issue is deeper. The Giants exposed the flaws that we had and still have (poor o-line, poor d, poor running game)and reminded us exactly why the super bowl might be a pipe dream. Aaron Rodgers or not, the Giants or Niners will shut us down EVERY time until we get that stuff fixed.

  20. By Matt on Nov 25, 2012 | Reply

    Both lines got their butt’s kicked in this one. Eli had all day to throw, and the running lanes were huge. Not good.

  21. By Evie89 on Nov 25, 2012 | Reply

    I love my Green Bay Packers and all, but today they’re were not the Packers I know and love. That game was embarrassing to watch. The offensive line was terrible, 5 sacks is unacceptable! Lets get back to playing the way we know how. And while we’re at it, lets hurry up and get those boys off the injured list!

  22. By Swanman on Nov 25, 2012 | Reply

    The OL is abysmal! MM is so arrogant in his game day plans that he cannot pull the trigger on most game time adjustments. James Campen should be fired for his lack of coaching the O line, and McCarthy needs to “re think” the Zone Blocking scheme! And, if it was not bad enough, the middle 0f the field stays wide open again for the opposing offense!

  23. By jeff on Nov 25, 2012 | Reply

    what happened to the no-huddle??? Did that get taken out in the buy week. This was the same play calling as last week and we almost lost to Detroit. Mc Carthy needs to quit play calling lie he is up by 4 touchdowns and turn the passing game loose. This is starting to look like Marty Shotenhimer, 3 yards and a cloud of dust.

  24. By Steve on Nov 25, 2012 | Reply

    We’re definitely not in the same class as the 9ers or Giants right now. But we’ll get better next year.
    Keep drafting offensive and defensive linemen and we’ll get there.

  25. By Ckaude Drost on Nov 25, 2012 | Reply

    Bring back Phil Bengston and the quick kick.

  26. By Ryan on Nov 25, 2012 | Reply

    Completely agree with Mathew. Offense hasn’t looked the same all year (other than maybe the Texans game), Capers D is absolutely atrocious, Rodgers can’t seem to ever let go of the ball, none of the players are on the same page and no one seems to care or even try compete (other than Cobb). What is going on? Can’t have some of the league’s top talent and squander it. Incredibly disappointing to watch your team lose in a way that appears as though they are not even trying!

  27. By Tarlam on Nov 25, 2012 | Reply

    You people are terrible fans! Haha, I cannot believe you are calling for the coaches head. Truly shameful!

    I hated watching the team lose, but, I kept the IR list and injury report in my mind.

    You people are pathetic.

  28. By kenn715 on Nov 25, 2012 | Reply

    Lets cut their pay in half that is all these coaches and players deserve this year

  29. By Jim-fromPA on Nov 25, 2012 | Reply

    Pathetic! I am amazed when a team does this! At times this Packer teams shows no heart!

  30. By Ryan on Nov 25, 2012 | Reply

    IR list and injury report are typical excuses. You can’t truly believe that a curb-stomping like this was because of injuries? It all comes back to passion and killer instinct and even in their wins this year GB hasn’t shown much of either.

  31. By Michael on Nov 25, 2012 | Reply

    The O-line is a joke, Seriously. We have not had one BIG win this year and outside that I am pretty concerned about both sides of the ball being so inconsistent. Right now I do not see us getting past the Wild Card Round.

  32. By george pack on Nov 25, 2012 | Reply

    Coaches have always been terrible….no running game for over 3 years now…no real talent (lineman) on both sides of the ball. We have only one real rusher. Mr T.T. your fired!!! along with mcCheeeseee’s and his gang………..
    Terrible play calling and leadership with zero personality. Stop wasting the talent we do have.

  33. By Saintboca on Nov 25, 2012 | Reply

    1. Bad idea McCarthy: 1st failed feildgoal near mid-field. momentum change.
    2. Bad idea McCarthy: overuse Cobb -bait for interception
    3. Bad idea McCarthy: ignore Donald Driver
    4. Bad idea McCarthy: Shave Your lip and skip the exta donuts.
    5. Bad idea McCarthy: I hate your “control freak” method of coaching. Let the players play. Listen to them on what plays will work sometimes.
    6. Bad idea McCarthy: you’re trying to kill your fans. I had to switch over to HBO at halftime to avoid a stress heart attack. I Love the Packers-but not you.

  34. By Ken on Nov 25, 2012 | Reply

    Newhouse got burned the entire game. Hey…why not try someone else?? Heck no, we will leave him in the entire game. Wow. I feel bad for Rodgers. He’s running for his life!

  35. By Matt on Nov 25, 2012 | Reply

    Don’t know if it would help or not, but maybe MM should look at some old game film of Holmgren-if someone messed up, he was in their face and let them know about it. Miss those days.

  36. By Sandia new mexico on Nov 25, 2012 | Reply

    All players and management should apologize to fans on Monday for stinking up the NFL

  37. By DavidOC on Nov 25, 2012 | Reply

    I agree with most of the comments above. THe packers looked flat out like a marginal team. Rodger seemed like he was lost is space and needs to get rid of the dam ball quicker. THe oline is a joke and has all of this year. But I read the comments above and wonder if you all forgot the packer went 15-1 last year. Mcarthy is a very talented coach and should not be hung up on one game. Have you all forgot how many packers are injured. The current count is 8 starters. These players are starters for a reason. They are the best at their positions. Give the players and coaching staff a break, yes bad game and yes it was hard to watch but it is still just one game. Now I will be the first to state that Newhouse has bad footwork and is not a starter caliber player but no one could of expected both starting tackles injured. So, it is not burn the house down yet. Relax boys, the starters are getting healthy and we all found out what happens when a team peaks too early….

  38. By Ken on Nov 25, 2012 | Reply

    I agree with Dennis. I listened to the game at work and said exactly the same thing. Mike… “Common Man!”

  39. By bzell602 on Nov 25, 2012 | Reply

    I’m surprised at you fans. When the team, makes an extraordinary play, you boast that they can do no wrong, and are gods among men. You claim the superb coaching, playing, and techniques are great! Have you no conviction? Are you that egotistical and proud? Pride is a deadly sin! People have a difficult time with pessimism, because they can’t handle and explain the criticism. If you feel this loss should repaid to another team like MIN, because the Packers organization is too cheap to get proven veterans, narrow-minded to rely solely on unproven players because they’re cheaper to keep, and egotistical to fix their problems in a different way than that of only through the draft, then you are just as much in fault as these “professionals” are. This loss is GB’s fault in total. They were beat in full. There was nothing good to take from this game. There’s no excuse that any fan, official, player, etc. can give to explain the performance done this night. If GB doesn’t do anything to truly fix these problems and continue to give lame excuses for the performance like official’s mistakes, then they get what they deserve. I’m ashamed of this team and of this organization. They owe each of their fans an apology. I’ve said this before, and I haven’t seen any reason to change my mind. The packers window of winning championships is closing, nothing will alter or change that, but TT sticks stubbornly to his philosophy, and all we’ve seen is 1 season, mostly of luck, without adapting.

  40. By P)A)C)K) on Nov 25, 2012 | Reply

    McCarthy never fires his players up. Also I agree with the mustache shave and skipping the donuts. And the field goal.

  41. By Adi on Nov 25, 2012 | Reply

    I can understand Packers getting overwhelmed by Giants pass rush because they can not match the talent right now. What I can not understand is that how our coaches did not anticipate that and did not have a plan B and C. Plan B is running the ball, which worked against Seattle in the second half but what is your plan C, coach? And if you do not have a plan C, why am I not the coach then? Even with this horrible O-line, Packers could have used a very good screen game, which btw was not practiced at all because the QB and the RB were way off when they tried except for once when it was a >10 yards gain. How about some trick run plays rather than just running up the middle every time? How about taking some deep shots just to intimidate the secondary. I mean what keeps you from trying these when nothing else is working?

    I still think Clay Matthews was the biggest factor because Eli wouldn’t have had that much time to throw if Matthew was playing and that could have changed the dynamics of the game significantly. I am hoping I am right because if I am not, Packers are not going to making the play offs; we can not take any team for granted at this point.

  42. By Lou from NJ on Nov 25, 2012 | Reply

    This was a repeat from the playoffs last year. We have got to figure a way how to block these Giants.

  43. By Tommy2cat on Nov 25, 2012 | Reply

    Did the Packers beat themselves AGAIN. They do that a lot when they play the Giants.

    Enough already.

    Super Bowl Champion Giants fan.

    Good Luck.


  44. By Craig on Nov 25, 2012 | Reply

    Packers could not even make a game of it. Every team knows, if they didn’t already, the blueprint for beating the Pack. Too many holes in the team to be a serious contender. Vic, and others, please admit that we don’t have the personnel. I’d rather see the Pack miss the play-offs and get a better draft position then another one and out like last year.

  45. By Julio Orvañanos on Nov 25, 2012 | Reply

    MM is not even a regular caliber head coach, we are loosing wonderful years and seasons with this below average head coach.

    he does.t react where adversity struck us, I´m from Mexico and I live here, please GB fans do something in order to fire this mediocre head coach as well as his coaching staff.

    Go pack Go.

  46. By PackerTilALosingSeasin on Nov 25, 2012 | Reply

    That O-Line Mann~

  47. By Jesse on Nov 25, 2012 | Reply

    GB has not played well in a long time. They struggled for much of the time against the Rams, Jags, Cards, and Lions. The injuries have obviously plagued the team, but they were able to get by against mediocre competition; that was not and would not be the case at Met-Life Stadium against the world champions.

    Seeing how some fans (and media members) are acting like GB was so red hot, please – stop it, you’re insulting our intelligence.

  48. By mtcheese on Nov 25, 2012 | Reply

    Well once again the Giants out played the Packers, Conlin out coached McCarthy and Eli out played Rodgers. Our O-Line is an embarrassment. And Rogers has once again showed that he is spending way too much time making commercials. I swear he’s looking more like Favre every week. The whole team and coaching staff need to get their heads out of their asses.

  49. By salmoperificc1 on Nov 25, 2012 | Reply

    Reblogged this on Salmoperific and commented:
    Salmoperific Packers’ win streak ends in 38-10 loss to Giants
    Booo for the Salmoperific loss!

  50. By 3 point on Nov 25, 2012 | Reply

    Sadly the injuries AND an immobile completely ineffective Newhouse demonstrated that the Packers must regroup soon with pass protection or forget the play off picture much less the division. Rogers cannot survive the repeated poundings. Why, when the game was an obvious loss, Mike did not pull AR is a mystery to me. THIS guy is the franchise and to risk him in this manner was incredible to me. Finally if you have a kicker who is struggling why put him at the very end of his range and ask for a field goal? Especially when the D line was so unable to stop the run…punt and regroup. All that aside there is a chance to pick it up and make a run but any team with a decent pass rush is a bad game in the making for the packers.

  51. By bzell602 on Nov 25, 2012 | Reply

    Fans should stop finding comfort in looking forward to thrashing a team that is in retrospect a developmental team looking to find their identity, in order to make ourselves feel better. Instead, we should focus on our own problems and keep our primary goal in mind, winning a championship. If it’s anything else, it’s counterproductive.

  52. By DavidOC on Nov 25, 2012 | Reply

    I agree with you Lou, the Packers better figure out their Oline issue and quickly. Rodger is a sitting duck back their. Sitton and TJ are very good Guards and are not good tackles but clearly the injuries forced the Pack to make moves that are not working. TT needs to draft some Oline talent soon or plan on Rodgers getting seriously injured. Clifton was the silent star of the past and they need to bring him back for a playoff run as his replacement Newhouse is a complete waste of size an talent. He is simply not worth keeping. For tht matter if Finely contines to run his mouth and drop passes, I would drop him before the season ends. Chemistry is important and this big mouth is no more that a larger version of TO with less talent. Like any good receiver, kiss your QB’s butt not be a pain of it.

  53. By Andy on Nov 25, 2012 | Reply

    Attention: people who want coaches fires – shut up.

    Does crying bloody murder make things better? Does it give us a win? Do you think the management is dumb enough to let amateurs dictate how to manage the team? Really? If we had a team run by fans, they’d never win a game. You’d all make terrible decisions. Just sit down and shut up. Move on. The world isn’t over. There will be another game next week and another season next year. If we won every game every year it wouldn’t even be fun watching anymore.

  54. By Joshua Nelson on Nov 25, 2012 | Reply

    this team needs some serious help on the o-line. If im not mistaken rodgers has just one more year on his contract. If I were him if they doent put some money or something into protecting me, id leave and go somewhere else. I love the pack but letting darryn colledge and chad clifton go was not good. Just as you would buying the “Great Value” brand at your grocery store sacrificing quality to save a few bucks, so have the pack with this O-line. You get what you pay for.

  55. By duh_puck on Nov 25, 2012 | Reply

    I know it’s a mistake to read the comments, but I still end up shocked just how ridiculous many of our fans are.

    I get that it’s an emotional loss. Yes, we looked bad in pretty much every phase. Especially atrocious were the O-Line, missed tackles, lack of pass rush, and the totally unproductive offense.

    But you people act like the solution to these problems is so simple that those in charge must be stupid for not fixing them. Do you not understand that the league is designed to ensure parity? Salary caps and the rules surrounding drafting and free agency constantly present coaches and management with tradeoffs, and the Packers have been among the best in the league at staying a winning franchise in recent years. What the management and coaching staff have done speaks to exceptional intelligence and discipline. There’s always room for improvement, but the comments I see hear are just inane.

    Start being real fans and support your team through the good and bad rather than thinking you are football gods who have all the answers, cause you don’t.


  56. By Peter on Nov 25, 2012 | Reply

    This game was the most pathetic excuse for this team that I have ever seen. I have followed them my entire life,even losing to Detroit 40-0 in the’70 season opener wasen’t as bad as this.No pride, stupid coaching,a team resting on past results. Injuries are part of the game, every team has them. No excuse. They better get their heads out of their asses or there won’t be a divison title. There won’t even be a playoff game. They are are far better team than this.

  57. By Jesse on Nov 25, 2012 | Reply

    People need to lay off TT in terms of not trying to build a decent OL. He has used TWO picks in the FIRST round in the last couple years to build an OL and they’re both on IR. He can’t really do much about that and no NFL team can be deep at every single spot. It doesn’t work that way… it’s why injuries DO MATTER

  58. By Jesse on Nov 25, 2012 | Reply

    People also need to SHUT UP about losing so badly. In their last 57 games. The Giants have our # right now and that’s just reality. But if you wanna talk about measuring the coaching staff… check this out; in 3+ years, the Packers have not lost by more than 8 points to ANYONE except the Giants. Yeah, I’m sure the coaching staff should be fired, oh and they won a SB.

    Get a grip you guys. It’s not that bad.

  59. By GBfaninAZ on Nov 25, 2012 | Reply

    The coaching staff is fine the players are fine. We got beat. Big deal, we’ll be beating others when all the starters return in time for the Superbowl run!!

  60. By julio.orvananos@gmail.com on Nov 25, 2012 | Reply

    Please dont send me any more e mails.
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  61. By Jesse on Nov 25, 2012 | Reply

    GB hasn’t been beaten by more than 8 points in the last 3 years except for in these last 2 games vs NY. In that time they have gone 43-14 in their last 57 games and won a Super Bowl.

    GB is 7-4 and in great shape to get healthy and make the playoffs; the post-season is what matters.

    You still want to fire the coaches and Ted Thompson? Please.

  62. By dennis on Nov 25, 2012 | Reply

    Panic? after one game? are you people kidding?do you all just crow when the Packers win and just whine when they lose?REMEMBER THIS PLEASE: THIS IS JUST THE EBB AND FLOW OF AN NFL SEASON. Take this all as the whole flow, not just segments either good or bad, wait until its over and then judge, thats if you can as adults, the jury is still out on that.

  63. By julio.orvananos@gmail.com on Nov 25, 2012 | Reply

    No more emails please.
    Enviado desde mi Blackberry® 3G de Iusacell.

  64. By Arturo on Nov 25, 2012 | Reply

    This game was a joke if the packers want to win they win: texans, saints, lions, bears the only thing that i see is that, when the packers win everybody love it but when they lose everybody want to fire all the staff including the mother of players c´mon this only one loss is nothin compare what it´s coming

  65. By Pissed off in Beloit on Nov 25, 2012 | Reply

    Nice game tonight guys! great effort! Thanks ted see what happens when you only draft players and dont even make an attempt to sign any free agents other than the ones that are bottom of the pile garbage. This team should be ashamed of even coming back to Green Bay.This O line has sucked for years and you continuously draft linemen like Jerry Angelo would. The D line isn’t much better. Fat,lazy,lethargic you name it. New York’s D line are specimens. Take some pointer’s Thompson and either leran how to draft linemen or quit being so cheap and buy some.

  66. By jeff on Nov 25, 2012 | Reply

    Jesse makes a good point, other than having to go into Chicago the rest of the games seem very winnable, and we should be able to sweep da bears as we will have alot of our starters back. Its not time to panic yet, but we really sucked tonite!!

  67. By Michael Miller on Nov 26, 2012 | Reply

    Wow. Come on guys it’s only a game. I’m a huge Packer fan, don’t get me wrong, but I can understand that life goes on after a loss, even a loss this big. Those advocating for the replacement of our coaching staff make me laugh. We’re talking about people that helped lead us to a Super Bowl victory and a 15-1 season. Quit being so ignorant. Why don’t we just fire Aaron Rodgers while we’re at it? Heck, he got out-played tonight by the opposing quarterback, so he must be terrible too, right? That’s the vibe I’m getting from reading many of these comments and, quite frankly, it’s ridiculous and disconcerting. Hold your heads high and move on and always remember that it’s just a game. A game that is meant to entertain and be appreciated. Appreciate what the Giants were able to do tonight (hard as though it may be) and hold your heads high! The Pack isn’t going anywhere! Go Pack Go!

  68. By Pissed off in Beloit on Nov 26, 2012 | Reply

    I am not saying fire TT but good lord his draft picks on the D line and O line have sucked. Raji is overrated, Cj wilson sucks,lang isnt that good, newhouse lol another fine mess there.

  69. By Reggie H on Nov 26, 2012 | Reply

    Today was my birthday and the Packer’s ended it on a sour note. I am with the rest of you with the coaching staff , and Crosby…The Packers looked like a team that was not fired up!This was very disappointing to say the least. The Packers need to wake up or they will be at home again like last year! I did not even watch the game it hurt way to much watching us play like crap!

  70. By Jeff on Nov 26, 2012 | Reply

    As a die hard Packers fan, that was embarrassing. In prime time to get their butts kicked like that. What a joke of a running game and nice play calling MM, how about getting Rodgers out of the pocket once in a while.
    Defence is soft, and poor tackling overall. Looks like a high school team out there. Tough to cheer for that for sure. Get rid of Crosby too, has to be some great young college kid on the practice squad with a good leg –
    # 2 is done and going into Dec. we need a kicker with some confidence not some slug who can’t make a key kick when we need it. Let’s get some starters back or we are done.

  71. By Pissed off in Beloit on Nov 26, 2012 | Reply

    When a team is 15-1 and can’t even win a game in the playoffs that is pretty sad. year in and year out our lines are consistantly outplayed and dont have enough talent. That blame goes right to the top.Either learn how to draft linemen on both sides of the ball or step down from your position.

  72. By d. jones on Nov 26, 2012 | Reply

    calm down everyone, for cryin out loud. We lost, to a good team. I didn’t like the way we looked at all, but seriously, you all want to fire Mccarthy and Thompson? Thats just stupid and ignorant. Calm down and put things in perspective for once. We are hurt and more. I’m not making excuses but we got beat by a team that’s coming off of their bye week with all of their starters in place with a hall of fame coach and a hall of fame qb and most of a hall of fame d line. No injuries to speak of and us beat the hell up. Stuff happens in this league and we still have 4 division games to go. It sucked to watch but get a grip. I’m not denying that there are problems but good god there is a lot of over reaction going on here.

  73. By Cole on Nov 26, 2012 | Reply

    I think T.T has done an outstanding job drafting offensive lineman it’s not his fault that they aren’t working out,But bring in someone when you see it’s not working and don’t let your franchise QB get smashed because of it,Our defense is inconsistent even when all our starters are in there we can’t stop anyone when you have average QB’s like Blaine Gabbert having a career day passing the ball on us you know there’s a serious problem there,I miss Clifton and Taucher on the offense,Those were consistent players,We need a new O line bigger and faster

  74. By Mary Ann on Nov 26, 2012 | Reply

    I almost wanted to cry to see how pitifically the Packers played. There were no outstanding plays except the pass to Jordy Nelson. This was an embarrassment. Where was the pass rush? Where was the passion? Where was the desire to win?
    Finley dropped the ball again. Cobb was the only one who showed some effort. Why can’t we have a good running game?
    Rodgers holds the ball and then gets sacked.
    I am sick at heart over this game.

  75. By Jeff on Nov 26, 2012 | Reply

    They have a favorable schedule coming home, it will be a joke if the Packers don’t make the playoffs. But if they do, they need to sharpen up numerous aspects of their game. I think Capers time is done, defence is just bad……..where is 80 Driver been all year? Come on with 85 Jennings out go to the veteran he is money!!

  76. By Ben on Nov 26, 2012 | Reply

    Hahaha @ the folks wanting to boot the coaches. The O-line needs some work, but as Vic has pointed out before, it can take a few years to develop the OT position, and Newhouse only has 1.5 years under his belt. NOT saying he’s the next Clifton/Tauscher, but he’s STILL inexperienced and there isn’t anything we can do about it right now. We also had something like 5 Pro-Bowlers either on IR or sitting out this game with an assortment of injuries. If you went into this game optimistic, then you were a fool. The G-Men have had our number for most of the last few seasons and are a terrble matchup for the Packers. I can’t wait to read Vic’s article tomorrow slamming so many nay-sayers…

  77. By Lombardi on Nov 26, 2012 | Reply

    They need at least 1 tackle, 1 guard, and a center on the o-line. They have to be embarrassed after getting handled like that. This should not be a surprise though, other than against Houston the run blocking is terrible and the pass blocking is below average. Detroit had their way with the line as well.

    It will be a long season for A-Rod, any team with average pressure will expose them in a hurry. I suspect we will see more 2 tightend sets like the Patriots. If the TE does not have to block then they release.

    Newhouse on the season-terrible
    D-Smith on the season-terrible
    Saturday on the season-terrible
    Sitton on the season-okay
    Lang on the season at guard-okay at tackle-terrible

    Let’s hope Barclay, Van Roten, Datko, and Sherrod develop quickly. Frankly, I am not sure they are any worse than some of the guys starting.

    I think the biggest mistake was they just plain had no depth for o-line (this is on TT and to a lesser extent MC.) It is odd to me, usually an O-lineman will be good at handling speed rushers or power rushers. In the last 2 games they could not handle either. So that not only means they did not have good technique, but they are behind on strength and conditioning as well. Yikes.

  78. By aelfwine on Nov 26, 2012 | Reply

    Can’t shoot the gun if the hunter doesn’t have protection!

  79. By aelfwine on Nov 26, 2012 | Reply

    I think the boys did what they could do with as much injuries as they have…really, is anyone surprised? Once I heard Clay was out, Bulaga, Jennings, and the rest of the O line is hurt but playing, like Kuhn and Nelson, it was just a matter of time till the injuries caught up. We took it in the teeth this time…be better next time. Go Pack Go

  80. By tzag on Nov 26, 2012 | Reply

    first of i love the Packers and am proud of the tradition, team, players, etc.. No, i think MM is a very good coach and TT is a very good manager and i was the biggest critic of them when they came in. A SB which was a very proud run from a 10-6 team to a SB Championship TWO years ago. A 15-1 season that ended in disappointment the last couple games against KC and the Giants in the playoffs but not too many teams in the NFL win 15 games. So no i’m not calling for TT or MM head but they’ve earned alot more support and backing in tough periods so i won’t badmouth them. The one things out of everything that disappoints me more than any other factor is passion, intensity, fire of the human spirit to fight. When i don’t see the Packers playing with those attributes i get upset by that as this isn’t what the Packers are all about. Win, lose, or draw, the Packers need to play every down, every play with passion, fire, intensitiy and the hope of WINNING the game. I felt in the middle of the 1st quarter of this game that this team did not have that at all. I didn’t see that in any phase of the game or by any players EXCEPT by Cobb and Hayward. I didn’t see it in the coaching or the calling of plays with a will to fight. This is something that has been missing since coming out of the bye against the Lions and Giants.

  81. By John Q on Nov 26, 2012 | Reply

    Yikes. An ugly loss for sure. I don’t think McCarthy needs to be fired, although I cant say that I agree with running the ball on consecutive downs when we are trailing by more than 2 scores. Theres no excuse for that. I know we cant use injuries as the whole excuse, but a when secondary that preseason was supposed to be Woodson, Collins, Williams and Shields turns into House, Jennings, Williams and Burnett, well how can we ever hope to defend against the pass.

  82. By aelfwine on Nov 26, 2012 | Reply

    Posted by PackisbackNM on Nov 25, 2012

    I think the boys did what they could do with as much injuries as they have…really, is anyone surprised? Once I heard Clay was out, Bulaga, Jennings, and the rest of the O line is hurt but playing, like Kuhn and Nelson, it was just a matter of time till the injuries caught up. We took it in the teeth this time…be better next time. Go Pack Go

    I think PackisbackNM got it right on the head !

  83. By Saintboca on Nov 26, 2012 | Reply

    To all our fellow fans: feel free to constructively, seriously, or humorously criticize GB’s coaches or players or other fans. It is your right. Your “amateur” opinions and “amateur” suggestions are valued (regardless of what some blind, well wishing, gloss-over-it-people, believe).
    If an ‘amateur” comment lead to one change, say for example, fire Mike McCarthy, and this leads to better game management, we eliminate most of the obvious strategy mistakes, etc. we all win a little bit. Sometimes you nibble your problems away (maybe with an off hand blog suggestion from a fan).
    As for being told that you are over reacting fans after a bad loss, and let the Experts and the Coaches make the right decisions- I say this: nibble at will; you are correct – our recent five wins were legitimately telescoping all the Packers defects in advance; “Experts” are not all created equal, disagree often, and are no better at predicting the future than “amateurs”.
    I respect all of you who disagree with my view. Fans write on this blog because they care about Packer Nation. The Packers are not America’s team. They are likely, God’s Team. They subscribe to sportsmanship honor and faith more than any other team. Players such as, but not limited to, Jennings, and Jones pray after a touchdown; Nelson is humble; Driver is unselfish, the list goes on. Simply stated – we want the good guys to win at a bad boy’s game. Now do you understand why this loss and every Packers game, matters so much to us?

  84. By Matt on Nov 26, 2012 | Reply

    In 2010 the Packers were 7-4 with a week 12 loss to an eventual playoff team (Atlanta). Offense was fairly inconsistent and unbalanced while the defense was injured and adjusting young players into Capers scheme. This year is no different. We will get key players back from injury in time for the stretch run, grab a wild card or division round home game, and sprint through the playoffs. Plenty of revenge to be had once we get there (NYG, SEA, SF).

  85. By aelfwine on Nov 26, 2012 | Reply

    In 2010 the Packers were 7-4 with a week 12 loss to an eventual playoff team (Atlanta). Offense was fairly inconsistent and unbalanced while the defense was injured and adjusting young players into Capers scheme. This year is no different. We will get key players back from injury in time for the stretch run, grab a wild card or division round home game, and sprint through the playoffs. Plenty of revenge to be had once we get there (NYG, SEA, SF).

    Another great post! Hats off to you: By Matt on Nov 26, 2012

  86. By Wylie on Nov 26, 2012 | Reply

    people we played with 7 rockies on the D, we are missing a key player on the OL with that in mind the Giant match up really good with the Great.
    we will be just fine.

    as AlI siad ” we are the greatest “

  87. By Don on Nov 26, 2012 | Reply

    I just can’t understand why we can’t find another running back out of college. I’m sure we will have a good draft position. Look for Wood the running back for Notre Dame.How did the 49ers defense get so good. What happened to the Packers defense? I hope they can answer these questions or the pack isn’t coming back,

  88. By TheDitka on Nov 26, 2012 | Reply

    The Ditka rejoices in Da Bears claiming, once again, the top spot in the NFC North. The Ditka sees victories against Seattle and Minnesota the next couple weeks as well as GB victories over Minnesota and Detroit. This results in GB coming to Chicago one game back and their season on the line. The Ditka dominates that game and assures the division for the Bears with hapless Arizona and Detroit left on the schedule. GB better pray that neither Minn or Det sound off like they have a pair or your season will come to a screeching halt sooner than expected. Fear not Packer Nation, for if all else fails you will always have fat chicks and kraut to keep you insulated from the bitter winter chill that is missing the playoffs. The Ditka is the all seeing eye of the NFL. Now go to bed, you all have to punch your time cards at the rubber dog poop factory in a few hours.

  89. By markynhoz on Nov 26, 2012 | Reply

    I only have one thing to say. depressing

  90. By Kevin on Nov 26, 2012 | Reply

    This game looked awful in every respect.

    That int… Take a look to the sideline and you’ll see Chambers left Nelson out in space.

    55 yard FG attempt? Wha? This guy’s been missing everything over 30 yards all year. NOT challenging the spot on the next drive and what amounted to that chip shot was a huge mistake and even if you lost that challenge? SNEAK THE BALL! YEAH, THE LOST ART OF THE QB SNEAK! That’s a guaranteed yard. Favre was doing that in the same situation 100% of the time with 100% success even when he was a frail old man.

    Next up is the choice of who’s running and when. You use Starks on long 1st down rushes and Green for short yardage? Instead of trying to bluff everything, sometimes you should utilize players on their strengths.

    If the left side of your O-line is as weak as what we have to work with, it can’t hurt to use a blocking TE and Kuhn to pass block.

    I would really love if we stopped making that scrub Eli Manning look like a god and sending him to multiple SBs that our team should have competed in. How you end up losing a game where the opponent’s QB is throwing as inaccurately as what we saw last night is a mystery.

    Anyways, the upside is that no matter how badly you lose it’s still just 1 loss.

  91. By Pam on Nov 26, 2012 | Reply

    Get rid of the mustaches Aaron & Mike…. This is not the 70’s, didn’t look good then, and doesn’t look good now. And if that isn’t reason enough, you just got your butts kicked, so if you’re into superstition, looks like they aren’t helping you with that either.

  92. By Robert on Nov 26, 2012 | Reply

    This game and the rest of the season’s on Ted.

    I’m not at all a Thompson basher – they’re very good talent evaluators overall. But going into the 2012 draft he should have taken an OL higher than Datko. When Evan Dietrich-Smith is you’re only experienced backup becauase Sherrod’s injury was so bad- like Mike Flanagan’s a decade or more ago – you’re rolling the dice.

    We have an O-Line that can neither pass nor run block.

    I said several weeks ago that they wouldn’t make the playoffs. Certainly injuries, especially on defense, are a big factor.

    I’m crossing my fingers, but it’s not looking promising.

  93. By Since '61 on Nov 26, 2012 | Reply

    The problem with this loss is that the Pack was not really competitive. That should be a big concern for the coaching staff and the team. If the O-line cannot protect Rodgers the Pack cannot win. We need more than one way to win. Hopefully we should see some improvements with the return of Matthews, Woodson and maybe most importantly Cedric Benson for the run game. This team should be at least 8-3 or even 9-2, without being robbed in Seattle and imploding for the 2nd half in Indy. The problem is that we still would be beaten soundly by both the 49er’s and the Giants. We can expect at least one of these teams to be playoff opponents and as of last night we cannot play competitive with either team. I still expect an 11-5 season with probably another short playoff run. Take it one game at a time guys.
    Since ’61

  94. By whatever brah on Nov 26, 2012 | Reply

    you reposted this crappy post? that is pathetic!

  95. By rick on Nov 26, 2012 | Reply

    Marshall Newhouse cannot block.

  96. By NIGERlAGUEST on Nov 26, 2012 | Reply

    My solution: use a handful of loose toilet paper, cover your butt hole and it will muffle the farting.

  97. By mike on Nov 26, 2012 | Reply

    That was the absolute worst game I’ve ever seen. They just beat us or we received a beatdown is no excuse. ya’ll are the green bay packers n u did not play like that at all. To big of gaps in the D n Eli n is team was playing pitch n catch. So next season lets not go for six WR n keep more OL how about that.

  98. By Bart Starr fan on Nov 26, 2012 | Reply

    Can anyone explain to me why coughlin found it necessary to throw let alone go for a touchdown with when up by 28 with about two minutes left. Tie breaker points is a crap excuse. this was nothing but poor sportsmanship.

  99. By george pack on Nov 26, 2012 | Reply

    MM is not a good coach. 7 years ago this was very clear..NO real ball smart’s and NO, NO personality = no social skills to connect with anyone….He’s only been riding the talent, you need to inspire, teach and guide with leadership.. Passion forget it…No clue on leadership and game smart’s. He has never shown real leadership or inspired emotion. The player’s are NOT playing for him anymore!!! What have they lost, Mr. T.T, AND over 5 year’s no run game, no real D and now your neglect on all the lineman is coming home in a big way..even Roger’s will leave before his career is ended by your stupidity and greed of the team’s treasure and money!!!!!!!!! I have watched all the year’s that were wasted (number 4’s last year’s) with MR. SHERMAN….not again please!!!!!!! Wake up and do your job or leave.

    A Stockholder

  100. By george pack on Nov 26, 2012 | Reply


  101. By Patrick on Nov 26, 2012 | Reply

    Absolutely killed in every aspect of the game. It is clear that Coughlin totally out coached McCarthy. McCarthy is a simple minded boring coach and Capers is horrible. They did not come prepared and it showed. The other disappointing fact is that this team has no fire and emotion. How can you not come out in this game of all games without deep emotion? What a bunch of bums. Bad chemistry. This team is finished. Rebuild!

  102. By Patrick on Nov 26, 2012 | Reply

    In response to the Giants going for more when up by 28. Yes, that bothered me deeply, but what was worse was that the Packers just sat there with no emotion. if that was me, I would have hurt someone called eli really badly. the team has no fire or chemistry. They are turning into the Cubs.

  103. By Scott on Nov 26, 2012 | Reply

    I’m a huge fan that lives in Kansas City,and for all you dummies complaing about coaching please move here.Sometimes you get taking behind the woodshed like the giants did the last 3wks.They were due for a W and us for an L.We will improve.

  104. By george pack on Nov 26, 2012 | Reply

    Hint to Management. The camera does not lie. So next interview with a head coaching position, film the interview and all meetings etc. Play back all film and if you see a hint of “clueless” or you see a “rock” (no personality, motivational or social skills) PASS and move on! The camera and screen NEVER lie…..or, this is your big management job NOW, to manage and direct a change in that person (if possible) or position. This is why it is called Management. Like a President directing his top general….leadership starts at the top and can be contagious.

  105. By jazzy T on Nov 26, 2012 | Reply

    This game as all the folks that committed showed how week the Packers really are.I have been a fan every since Jim Brown retired from the Browns so you know its been a long time. Everybody talks how good Rodgers is I agree but he has also becoming another Brett. He has become very arrogant and seems to look for Jordy Nelson to often. If you look at Jordy’s catches most are if the defender slips, falls down or a blown coverage. He can not flat out run past a defender and can not fight of a good bump at the line, this game proved that. I saw several times in the game Jones was wide open or had out run the defender and Rodgers just held the ball. The coach is just as arrogant, Green is your best back, quicker, cuts better and reads the holes better and is suited for the zone blocking scheme than Starks. Starks reaction to the holes, to slow, suited more for third down short yardage and when Green needs a blow.Green should be getting the snaps until Benson returns. You need your veterans on the field, Coach is not using Driver and depending on Cobb to much. Oh! for the guy who has called people amatures for their opinions, all of us are not amatures and the game of football is not rocket science and if you played the game you know most of the plays are over a 100 yrs old, just revised. Now back to what matters, the O-line is weak nothing else to be said weak, weak, weak, oh yea slow,slow,SLOW!!! The tight end, well a lot of mouth, bad hands, and a cry baby enough said. Defense, well quite a few rookies on the field, Defensive line not getting enough blows to much time on the field, don’t have the talent at D-end, D-coach needs to rethink his approach. Rodgers needs to stop dropping back and profiling. Well thats it, for what its worth Vikings here we come, Go Pack!!!!!

  106. By Kenny on Nov 26, 2012 | Reply

    A blowout loss to the Giants isn’t the issue. The problem is that the o-line isn’t going to get any better.

    The O-line right now is worse than the one last year. The O-line from last year was subpar as it was.

    Also, the Packers struggle to stop the run, and can’t generate much pressure without CMIII.

    The Vikings are a very physical team. I don’t know that we can count on Ponder throwing us 2 or 3 balls again, this year, to offset AP running all over us.

    We obviously can beat the Vikings. However, I am not sure that we actually will.

  107. By Neil on Nov 26, 2012 | Reply

    After that game I suppose that the only positives that can be taken are – it wasn’t a playoff game and that Rodgers lives to fight another day. If one of those numerous sacks had been a bit more ‘vigorous’ then the Packers would be like the Steelers without Big Ben. Just awful.
    As most people have said, the O-line was terrible but perhaps this is the shot in the arm they need that could see performances improve leading into the playoffs. But I’m not holding my breath.
    But it’s not all doom and gloom, the pack are dangerous when they are wounded and I expect the Vikings to be easily disposed of. But the games after that and the playoff game or games are the worry. As has been highlighted by Cobb and a few others is the attitude towards this game was not right. If players are not up for a game against the team that ended there superbowl dreams the previous season then you must wonder when this ‘malaise’ will strike again amongst the players.

    I live in hope though. With Jennings, Woodson and Clay back the Packers are stronger and with Rodgers, any thing is possible. And maybe, just maybe next weeks game against the Vikings could be the start of a run that will take us all the way. We can but dream……

  108. By Jackson on Nov 26, 2012 | Reply

    When will the team be taught to tackle the legs, not the shoulders???Tackling sucks/

  109. By Scott 1956 on Nov 26, 2012 | Reply

    I love all these comments about not being beaten this bad in years, except for the Giants! This offensive line has been the weak spot of this offense for years! It wasn’t as bad when we still had Clifton, Tauscher and Wells! But now that they are gone, you can tell that there isn’t much talent there! The Zone Blocking scheme DOESN’T WORK! You need linemen that are maulers. Big, strong and nasty! Not the little dancers you have there now!

  110. By Morgan on Nov 27, 2012 | Reply

    guys… it’s one game. We’ll come back. everyone knew this game was going to be hard.

  111. By Morgan on Nov 27, 2012 | Reply

    You cannot blame this on our coaching staff… admit it. Our offensive and defensive players screwed up. It wasn’t the play calling, it was the execution of plays that we had trouble with.

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