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Ask Vic Halftime: Don’t take the Bengals lightly

Posted by Vic Ketchman, packers.com editor on September 22, 2013 – 1:27 pm


Mark from Kingsford, MI

How do you account for the Packers coming out so flat against the Bengals? Why is it they can’t handle teams like the Bengals or Chiefs?

I think you’re guilty of looking down your nose at the Bengals. These aren’t the old Bengals, this is a Bengals team attempting to make it into the playoffs for the third year in a row. The Bengals are the AFC North favorites and they have a stout defense. Flat? I don’t think that’s the issue. I think the Bengals are the issue.

Noah from Canton, OH
I understand we need to keep Cobb healthy, but Ross continues to make bad choices and mess up returning the ball. Why do the packers keep sending him out there?

Didn’t you answer your own question? Apparently, Ross is the best option other than Cobb. That could change. Fumbling usually necessitates change.

John from Manchester, MI

Vic, second week in a row a Packers player has been targeted in the head on a tackle. Finley was a defensless player. Why does the NFL say it’s putting an emphasis on these types of plays but doesn’t really do anything? It’s becoming a joke.

I was expecting a flag. All we can do is wait for the league and Mike Pereira to tell us whether the non-call was right or wrong. This is becoming very frustrating for me, too. I’ve covered the game for 42 years and I don’t know what the rules are anymore.

Matt from Green Bay, WI

Why, on consecutive possessions, do we chuck to the end zone on third-and-six? It seems like we don’t even try to pick up first downs anymore.

Maybe it’s a result of what the Bengals denied. I looked in the secondary and didn’t see anyone open. The Bengals are playing some very good defense.

Paul from De Pere, WI

This horrific start means we will learn a great deal about the Packers today. How will they respond? Is this a game they should win?

The character of the team isn’t at issue. The defense has already responded by forcing turnovers that have gotten the Packers back into the game. I don’t look at this game as a should win. I think that would be to look down my nose at the Bengals. I won’t do that. I have too much respect for Marvin Lewis to do that.

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33 Responses to “Ask Vic Halftime: Don’t take the Bengals lightly”

  1. By Sam on Sep 22, 2013 | Reply

    Some times you’ve got to win them ugly. If the Pack pulls it out today, I’ll take an ugly win.

  2. By travis on Sep 22, 2013 | Reply

    some good defenses on the field today vic! good game! Bengals aren’t missing any tackles today, I think the ground game for the packers has to be solid to win this game, what you think?

  3. By BIG CHEESE on Sep 22, 2013 | Reply

    Is there more to the Redskins comment about Rodgers reading coverages than we thought. I don’t recognize this offense. Starks looks good again, and the defense has the Packers up by two at the half. Come on Boys…..Let’s start rollin…

  4. By Nate wawro on Sep 22, 2013 | Reply

    What is your thoughts on Finley’s injury

  5. By BIG CHEESE on Sep 22, 2013 | Reply

    Now Starks is injured AGAIN…

  6. By mike rogge on Sep 22, 2013 | Reply

    question: Matthews with another hamstring. third year in a row. what gives? do they never heal properly?

  7. By goldplater on Sep 22, 2013 | Reply

    low block into the lower leg against starks; no wonder.
    the same they did against rodgers but he was not fixed in a pile or it would have hit him badly…

    Finley was a accidentle hit shoulder-head but could have been flagged. I think this concussionthing is a danger as much as the hamstrings for this team :-(

  8. By Dan Park on Sep 22, 2013 | Reply

    I have never seen a team so decimated by injuries. 3 out of 4 of there running backs are down, two of there defensive back starters are down, possible their number one offsensive lineman down, tight-end down, and this is not to mention the long list of first round picks: Sherrod, Harrell, Perry for most of a season, etc. Amazing!

  9. By BIG CHEESE on Sep 22, 2013 | Reply

    Flashbacks of the 1970’s and 80’s. It doesn’t get any uglier than this.

  10. By BJ on Sep 22, 2013 | Reply


    I don’t understand how you can remain patient and poised when dealing with irrational cry babies who write you. You must have an awesome life, filled with grace, happiness, and joy. However, can you explain the captain logo patches (on the jerseys) and the different amount of colored stars underneath the “C” between the captains who wear them?

  11. By Raymond Kling on Sep 22, 2013 | Reply


    Week one we had Jeremy Ross return 2 ill advised punts and not get past the 12 yard line where those drives stalled rather quickly, this week he muffs a kickoff that easily was converted into 7 points for Cincy and has a key drop or two in the 4th quarter. When will we stop putting this buffoon out there to return punts for us and find someone else who can do the job?! You can put those 2 games solely on his shoulders in my opinion. Sure Rodgers had 2 picks, but when put in that situation by special teams, namely Ross… WHY IS HE STILL ON SPECIAL TEAMS RETURNING THE BALL!?!?!?!?

  12. By Raoul on Sep 22, 2013 | Reply

    Vic: Your take on the Bengals game. Here is mine. Packers are not a post season team. They will not win the division. They may finish last. They can beat poor teams but not good or average teams. They are physically not prepared for the NFL. Where it the conditioning? Coaching was inept. Rogers was a below average QB. He should spend less time filming commercials and move practicing as a QB. Unbelievably poor performance. Sickening.

  13. By Rey Ortiz on Sep 22, 2013 | Reply

    Vic, What a game!! I watched the game and as a Packer Fan I really wanted the Packers to WIN… Yet, all I could think of was of the multiple occasions where you remind readers to enjoy the game and this time I did without getting upset. I understand that we need to start winning ASAP but which play do you think was the most reckless? Ross’ kick return misreading, Aaron’s throw to Finley (concussion), Aaron’s turn on down when he tried to run for a TD, or McCarthy’s call to go on 4th instead of sending the improved Crosby?

  14. By Robert on Sep 22, 2013 | Reply

    What a mess.

  15. By BIG CHEESE on Sep 22, 2013 | Reply

    Great game to watch, if you’re not a Packers fan. More road kill; good thing next week is the bye week. Hopefully they’ll get it together. 10-6 can win a Super Bowl when a team gets hot at the right time. Franklin, aside from the fumble, looks good. Worst game I’ve ever seen Rodgers play, I don’t care how much credit writers give to the Bengals defense.

  16. By Robert on Sep 22, 2013 | Reply

    I disagree with the change of Cobb’s first down. There was simply not enough evidence to overturn a call, plus when the knee was down, the ball was much further ahead than where they placed it. Then MM pulls a play out of Lindy Infante’s book and, yes, runs it up the middle! Not Franklin’s fault – MM’s fault. Rodgers completely flustered, frightened, inaccurate, and foolish. Horrific game by him. When we had it with about four minutes to go to win the game, NO ONE here had any confidence in Rodger, who telegraphed all his throws today, to do it. He’s a choker in the 4th qtr. Fortunately we have a bye.

  17. By brokenbackjack on Sep 22, 2013 | Reply

    Best not be giving any players any time off in the bye week and clearly they need to work on fundamentals.
    MM give up the play calling to the O coordinator.

  18. By Randy on Sep 22, 2013 | Reply

    Hey Victoria,

    Even you can’t defend McCarthy today. Kicks a field goal at the 0.5 yard line. Goes for it on fourth and 0.25 in th 4th quarter with a 3 point lead. Then he hands it off 3 yards in the backfield to a rookie running back who doesn’t cover up (that’s what rookies do). The Ben gals were ripe for the picking and McCarthy threw one away. Please don’t be a Packer apologist and grow some.

  19. By Jeff on Sep 22, 2013 | Reply

    Game over and one comment – this one is all on the offense. Two field goals after turn overs. Time to regroup and please do not tell me about injuries, get over it the Packers will have to play with injuries period!!!

  20. By Bratfest on Sep 22, 2013 | Reply

    Give me a break, this wasn’t simply a loss to a good team. This was a punch in the stomach by a good team that wasn’t as good as Green Bay should be. Neither San Fran or Cincy beat us, we beat ourselves. Face it, we have a great team that is imploding upon itself. Coaching, injuries, poor execution, excuses and no accountability.

  21. By Braccle on Sep 22, 2013 | Reply

    Just think Packers keep playing the way you are playing and you get first pick in 2014 Draft, you could get rid of those sideline whimps that don’t play, draft another bunch of misfits. Go BOYS

  22. By s.fisch on Sep 22, 2013 | Reply

    hey this is another game that DOM CAPERS has to take credit for! hey DOM in case you didn’t realize it you are the defensive coordinator, your job is to come up with a defensive scheme to stop the opponents defense! im so sick of hearing all these excuses for why you cant seem to do that! the players on this team are good enough put your scheme isn’t and you continue to fail to evolve your scheme to accomplish that. ITS YOU! the colts just kept the 49’s to 7 points, their players on defense are not any better then ours. we allowed them to score 34 pts on us! we allowed the most points in the league 2 years ago, most people would of lost their jobs then! what are you trying to break your own record? sorry but DOM needs to be GONE!!!!

  23. By Shawn on Sep 22, 2013 | Reply

    Move Mathews back and forth from right to left. And if these coaches just cant seem to draft players to fit thier scheme then…..maybe we need a new scheme! Still waiting for Perry and D Jones to do something! Guess TT aint such a genuis after all!

  24. By Shawn on Sep 22, 2013 | Reply

    …And what the heck! Sign Peyton Hillis!

  25. By Mike on Sep 22, 2013 | Reply

    When playing a defensive line like the Bengals, do you think we would have been better off moving the pocket some? The offensive live could not hold ground and appeared to be 3 to 5 yards back shortly after the snap.

  26. By phillygbfan on Sep 22, 2013 | Reply

    not sure what a troll like Braccle is on this site for but why not go where you are appreciated??? I have a couple of suggestions, starting with on YOUR NFL team’s website. Whenever we kick bears, lions, or vikings posteriors(like most of the time)I’ve never even been slightly interested in going on their blogs to make obnoxious statements. you need to get a life.

  27. By Don on Sep 22, 2013 | Reply

    The Packers really need to pick up a good return man and corner back if they are going to succeed! A big offensive line man would help in the red zone, especially. You can’t move piles with under sized line men!

  28. By Lauren on Sep 23, 2013 | Reply

    I know injuries are part of the game, but why do the Packers have an inordinate number of hamstring injuries. This question came up in the commentary by Fox Sports Sunday afternoon. Any Thoughts?

  29. By Brandon on Sep 23, 2013 | Reply


    After watching him in 3 games now I think its time to sign Sam Shields to a long term contract before his price goes up even higher. Why wait for the offseason when other teams can put in a bid?

  30. By Alex on Sep 23, 2013 | Reply

    ” All we can do is wait for the league and Mike Pereira to tell us whether the non-call was right or wrong. This is becoming very frustrating for me, too. I’ve covered the game for 42 years and I don’t know what the rules are anymore.”
    But Vic, you are forgetting your mantra, this is a game of replacement, just toss the guy aside and put in another one.
    When are you going to learn these are people not chess pieces.
    The league is only going to take an interest and truly focus on this when it hits their bottom line and PR . But you can help by eliminating your mantra from your column and treat the players like the men they are instead of pieces of meat. By cutting your commentary about replacement you can stop giving people the excuse that it’s OK to treat football players the way the NFL does.

  31. By Jeff on Sep 23, 2013 | Reply

    Wow, lots of “fair weather” fans in here! You know, I never hear about MM’s play calling when they win! People have bad games, it’s a fact of life. Nobody can be great all the time, yet we have the best QB in the league, one of the best coaches and a proven GM in TT. Some people just need to get off of these sites and let real football fans enjoy meaningful football conversation. The Pack will be back, they have proved it over and over again, and I’m not about to give up on them for a couple of bad games!!

  32. By Gerry on Sep 23, 2013 | Reply

    I have been a Packer Fan for over fifty years now and i am getting the feeling that the defencive back field is a game of individual stats. For the past several years now, I feel that the corneers and safeties give way to much room to the receivers. If we watch the Seahawks, take note what they did to the 49ers. This is what the Packers should be doing and I have been saying this for years. Quit worrying about trying for that interception and make it hard on the quarterback to throw to them. Just knock them off the route!!!

  33. By Steve-NewMilford on Sep 28, 2013 | Reply

    Bengals are deeper and more dangerous this year than ever. With Bernard on board, kinda reminds me of the Boomer & Ickey days. Peyton and Tom take notice. This should be a fun year (again) for Bengals fans.

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