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Packers fall to 5-5 with 27-13 loss

Posted by Vic Ketchman, packers.com editor on November 17, 2013 – 6:10 pm

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EAST RUTHERFORD, NJ–The Packers’ losing streak reached three games with a 27-13 loss to the New York Giants at MetLife Stadium on Sunday, but the Packers lost no ground in the NFC North title race, thanks to Detroit’s loss in Pittsburgh.

The Packers cut the Giants’ lead to seven points, 20-13, when Eddie Lacy capped an 83-yard drive with a 4-yard touchdown run. The big play in the drive was a 52-yard pass completion from Scott Tolzien to Jarrett Boykin.

After the Packers defense pitched a three-and-out at the Giants offense, the Packers had the ball at their 30-yard line and with momentum on their side. That momentum quickly switched sides, however, when Giants defensive end Jason Pierre-Paul, who’s had big games against the Packers in recent years, intercepted a Tolzien pass and returned it 24 yards for a touchdown that gave the Giants a 14-point lead with 10:55 to play in the game. Pierre-Paul’s play would be the game-clincher for the Giants.

Green Bay’s record falls to 5-5, a game behind Detroit and Chicago, each 6-4. Chicago defeated visiting Baltimore in overtime.

Tolzien, in his first pro start, completed 24 of 34 passes for 339 yards, no touchdowns and three interceptions. Eli Manning threw for 279 yards, one touchdown and one interception.


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167 Responses to “Packers fall to 5-5 with 27-13 loss”

  1. By Ryan on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    The Packers are painful to watch now. Not because they lost, its because 90% of the team is playing like garbage.

  2. By Harvester on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    The stats lie here. 279 1 INT and 1 TD for Manning doesn’t reflect the game he had. He looked nothing like the most intercepted QB in the league and he had long drives. Tolzien needs to be polish. That much is certain. Who will start next week’s game for the Packers?… stay tune

  3. By jlove on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    Packers stink!

  4. By Ryan on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    And now the crying begins lets here it babies

  5. By bryan dehn on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    when will rodgers be back we gotta snap out of this

  6. By Ryan on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    *Hear

  7. By jlove on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    Green bay has a ghost Secondary….no where to be seen

  8. By KYCACTUS on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    Will the Packers win another game this year?????

  9. By Matt on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    The defense is so utterly pathetic it’s not even funny. They consistently give up big play after big play. I can’t remember how many 2nd & 20’s turned into first downs by the Giants. I understand it’s the players who execute, but when they consistently run zone coverage and rush 3 guys and still leave at least one-two guys wide open, that’s coaching. This defense needs a major overhaul.

  10. By jlove on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    Next Sunday…..vikings 27 green bay 13…….it’s. A wrap…even with flynn

  11. By Mike on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    You can taunt all you want Ryan, its just a game. Disappointed in the loss, but its over, and now I’m going to finish some work, kick back, relax and have a beer. :p

  12. By Matt on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    I would love to read Vic’s inbox tonight-he should just print all the e-mails.

  13. By mike on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    Start jaming the receivers or at least the TE. We play D way to soft. We look like Pee wee football.

  14. By Kevin on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    One running play where the QB doesn’t slide can cost you a season.

    Don’t do it. This team isn’t even mildly entertaining to watch sans Rodgers.

  15. By Grant on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    Another terrible loss to a average team, shows how important Aaron Rodgers is. Coaching problems are a factor, Chambers should figure out the offense in a quarter but finally we figure it out at the end of third quarter. McCarthy needs to stop doing these gutsy special teams plays, everyone is catching on! This needs to be a wake up check to this coaching staff because their jobs should be on the line. Apparently McCarthy’s so called speech after last game was not loud and clear.

  16. By biochemdude on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    @Ryan, it would be difficult for any team to win without “The Man,” the defense has been playing badly partly because of all the injuries sustained since the Ravens game. Have faith in the staff, here comes December and if we’re healthy “look out.”

  17. By jlove on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    The packers secondary couldn’t cover and receiver with a 100 foot wide tarp

  18. By Chris on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    Where is the press conference? I want some explanations!!

  19. By Matt on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    That’d be too easy to make that kind of adjustment for Capers to make. He must stick to that game plan of rushing 3-4 and playing zone with a 10 yard cushion on all the receivers.

  20. By fredbehr on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    I have been packer fan for years once elite team no longer the best team out there. Packer nation should hope to vote for Seattle to make the superbowl. They are the best team out there. Hopeful we can give the packers 3-4 years to be the elite again

  21. By D2 on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    Anyone know why it wont show my comments?

  22. By Shane on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    Hey Vic! Whats your excuse for Dom Capers horrible defense this time?

  23. By Matt on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    Vic is preparing his defense of MM and crew again.

  24. By Ryan on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    lol i think u misunderstood what i wrote im not the one doing the crying its the typical week loss complaints u get on here. But when they win, its super bowl bound but now its a loss and lets fire everyone just to make ourselves feel better get over it

  25. By pjhartson on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    What is going on with Green Bay????? Where is Matt Flynn. I thought he was starting today??? AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. What a way to start the week… With the Blahs

  26. By domcapersandourdsuck on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    ok it is over this team totally rots. fire the coaches and the training staff and restart……

  27. By denvertvguy on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    Wow. Not a good team. I hope they lose out and get a soft schedule next year with a healthy team. This team has no chance of doing anything in the playoffs.

  28. By domcapersandourdsuck on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    a 500 pound fat lady can beat our secondary

  29. By Steve on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    Haven’t given up yet…still play division rivals again. Let’s get healthy! That being said our defensive SCHEME isn’t working!!! Hear that Dom??? We have talent on defense, just not the right scheme. How can receivers get sooooo wide open on 3rd and 5+ yards. If I was a betting man I would’ve bet the RANCH on NY today.

  30. By Badger on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    Okay, we lost another game, 4th in a row. A team wins together and loses together. We aren’t crying as some think, just a little lost for team strength. We can see that the new quarterback is fresh with promise and the other teams are counting on it. But he is good to be a Packer. Our defense has holes that need to stop the bleeding. I believe that even with this loss we have turned the corner and all will be better from here on out! Go Pack Go!!!

  31. By domcapersandourdsuck on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    we did not even get one sack did we?

  32. By Kennyb on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    This team has no hear…no emotion . No defense.

  33. By Ryan on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    a 500 pound fat lady seems pretty intimidating. U mean a 100 pound lady??

  34. By Patrick from NJ on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    This team is nothing without Aaron Rodgers. He makes the offense go and compensates for the glaring weaknesses on defense.

  35. By Anthony on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    I think Matt Flynn should play next week

  36. By domcapersandourdsuck on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    no physicality – it is like having a bunch of school girls on our o line and also on our entire d

  37. By domcapersandourdsuck on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    yes let Flynn play

  38. By Paul on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    I think it’s safe to say that the Packers season is pretty much over. I think at this point in the season, the injuries are just too much for them to over come and by the time Aaron comes back it will be too late for them to salvage the rest of the season. I just can’t see them winning with the team they have now but anything can happen on any given sunday. Just have to wait and see.

  39. By Patrick from NJ on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    looks like all those defensive draft picks aren’t quite panning out as expected. Secondary looks dazed and confused.

  40. By Steve on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    Hey Vic,
    I can tell by your comments you’re NOT a Packer fan. You get paid to cover them but you’d rather be in Pitt. Please move on.

  41. By domcapersandourdsuck on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    yes season over outta here – this team is terrible

  42. By Kennyb on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    I thought you had to have good linebackers to run this so called dom capers soo
    Valued offense…..we don’t .

  43. By domcapersandourdsuck on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    fire Vic too

  44. By Bd on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    Even with Tolkien or Flynn, the pack is still playing the 3×5 recipe card play sheet mn Vikings…good game to get back on track. (Living in mn, but hate the vikes).

  45. By Matt on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    Remember the hot start by AJ Hawk-yeah, me neither.

  46. By kevin McDonough on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    Until the pack figures out there defense the problems will continue. The coaching staff are a bunch of smart guys I have faith they will figure it out. And for all you chicken little the sky is falling types quit calling for Capers head it just isn’t going to happen.

  47. By Ryan on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    lol fire vic too now that’s what u call being butt hurt haha little advice if u can’t take losses very well then don’t watch football

  48. By Patrick from NJ on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    I wouldn’t rush Rodgers back. Season is over. Let Rodgers heal completely and give it another go next year. The injuries have been ridiculous but there is no ignoring the fact that the defense is awful.

  49. By Steve on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    We can still win the division…let Tolzien throw the ball!!! Supplement with the run but THROW THE BALL!

  50. By fred erickson on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    heard this from a longtime packers fan recently, “wake me up when they fire Capers”. couldn’t agree more.
    secondary is a joke!

  51. By Mib on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    Pjhartson tolzein was always starting. Badger, it was 3rd in a row. Domcapersandourdsuck 3 sacks I think. The truth is despite the d giving up the big plays they only gave up 20 points. We need number 12 back soon.

  52. By Patrick from NJ on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    figure out the defense? chicken little sky is falling? the defense has been abysmal since the Super Bowl team … the defense is the reason the Packers have not had any post season success since 2010 … if they haven’t figures things out by now they never will

  53. By kenn715 on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    nice job oline holes big enough to drive a freight train through for the opposing defense anyway… Its time to put skirts on the defensive secondary they play like it for sure… Good luck next week another loss you heard it here first.

  54. By Bd on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    Good god pack faithful…we r one game out!

  55. By tfredrich2 on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    No Secondary Defense and poor McCarthy play calling = another embarrasing loss for the Packers.

  56. By phil on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    Its mcarthy and the defense fault Mcarthy dident let tolzein throw the ball. and the defense just needs help.WE MUST WIN NEXT WEEK

  57. By M-train73 on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    WOW!! What a all around performance. Or lack there of.

  58. By brad on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    its been a injury plagued yr,,,,,,,you loose great players its hard to recover sometimes,,,were seeing why but I agree the defense needs a lot of help

  59. By Patrick from NJ on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    one game out might as well be 10 games out … defense can’t stop mediocre teams and QBs … I would hate to see what a quality team and QB would do to the “D”

  60. By kenn715 on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    trade rogers to the bears for cutler that is what this team needs

  61. By Bob on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    We’re still only one game back, but it seems so much worse the way the team is playing.. When is Arod supposed to be back?
    That defense is so bad that the Packers only chance to win is by putting up at least 30 points. Bring on Matt Flynn. It’s not that Tolzien was that bad, but he turns the ball over at the worst possible times. Maybe Flynn has one more good game left in him. Yea and maybe our Db’s can cover somebody!! If not it’s wait until next year!

  62. By Swamp on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    It isn’t the 20 points that concern me Mib. It’s the 2 and 19 and we give up 15 to put them in 3rd and short. It’s the sit back and wait to see if the D can finally get a stop. We have no fire and that is an extension of Capers. The defense is the same it has always been the only difference is we do not have 12 scoring 30. When we NEED our D to step up Capers has them rushing three with no sense of urgency. I’m tired of it. Capers needs to be gone and Vic you can go with him. The audacity this week when you basically told a fan he was clueless is enough for me. Just get out!

  63. By brad on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    we need to rebuild,,starting with the defense,,,had a great run winning a superbowl,,,

  64. By AzzysUniquePlushies on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    How about we do a deal with Packers.com?
    If the Packers get to the playoffs, we ban all those who have lost faith (on the Packers getting there) from posting on the comments.
    Packer nation doesn’t need people on the bandwagon or to repeat every week the same thing about McCarthy, the offense, Capers or just plain irrationality like trading Rodgers or playing Flynn.

    It’d make the site a better site.

  65. By Steve Kakacek on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    It was too painful for me to finish the game……switched over to watch the Saints defeat the 49ers.

  66. By packers_2k13 on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    @kenn715 your joking right? that would be a really stupid move

  67. By Shawn on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    Too bad MM waited til 4th to abandon the run againt one of the best run D’s of the game. But hey its ok tho!! DOM CAPERS IS GENUIS!!!! JUST “ASK VIC!”

  68. By Mike on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    The game has been over for nearing an hour an y’all are still going at it?

  69. By Shawn on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    NO WORRIES!!! DUM CAPERS IS A GENUIS RIGHT?!!!

  70. By Vincent on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    here’s a pro look at what’s going with the Packers. They will lose every game through out the season. The Defense gets lax when it’s 3rd and 17 or 2nd and 20 and give up big plays. Clay Matthews still injured can’t cover a whole team and can’t tackle professionally. Don Capers after the Superbowl hasn’t achieved much, turnover ratio has dropped and points allowed has increased to make the Packers where they were in the losing skid for 30 years. Either get it together Capers or find some where else to work if you don’t like what’s going on, to change drastically like they have means something’s not right in the Shakespeare’s world of poetry. The GM made huge mistakes in not having a secured back up quarter back and getting rid of a lot of talent on the defensive side was just complete ignorance. Packers with the talent and young players they have something needs to be really investigated and it’s not the players but management. Many need to be fired. losing is one thing, but doing what they are doing is beyond losing a game. Packers out look 5-11.

  71. By geb on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    soft

  72. By Katoe on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    Agreed. And don’t forget the two 4th downs the giants converted in the 2nd quarter. Packers have a defense problem not a QB problem.

  73. By AzzysUniquePlushies on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    Geez people, just ONE game back.
    Tolzien’s first game, cut him some slack, did you all forget Rodgers was like this on his first Season?
    The kid threw for over 300 yds, he managed the offense amazing.
    He IS our QB right now. So better quit calling for Flynn already.

    ONE game and everything will be good. This is football, you fight to win and get to the playoffs. You don’t just get games handed to you.
    Learn to lose with dignity

  74. By fromeo on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    All these packer fans that are’ come on,were just 1 game back’, yea,losing to teams that GB should of won 1 out of the 2! now we come against team that are a lot better,including Minnesota,being a rival, they are always a threat! And even with rogers back, he can’t play DEFENSE TOO!!! ITS BEEN TO LONG WITH CAPERS AT THE CONTROLS OF THE ‘D’. JUST LIKE TIRES ON A CAR, ITS TIME FOR A CHANGE!!!

  75. By Corky on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    Defense stinks but saying McCarthy didn’t let him throw the bal. He got interceted 3 times and threw for over 300 yards. Problem came at the beginning of the game not throwing.

  76. By Skippy on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    If you stupid a$$ Bear fans are going to troll, at least learn how to spell.

  77. By fromeo on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    Can’t wait for MM’s after game speech ‘PRICELESS’!!!

  78. By brokenbackjack on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    1 game out doesn’t fix the problems. That is like saying we only lost by 7 points, we still lost. When you have problems on anything you had better fix it or you will continue to have problems as they do not fix themselves.

  79. By Scott on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    McCarthy Game Plan:

    1st down run off tackle
    2nd down run off tackle
    3rd down throw incomplete with a 3yd out pattern
    4th down punt

    We have no imagination on offense and too predictable…come on McCarthy do something that is not the same thing over and over!!! Damn!

  80. By PK on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    Run has to start against ViQueens GO PACK !

  81. By BIG CHEESE on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    I have an idea, all the “fire everybody” fans, and the quitters, jump ship onto the Seagull’s bandwagon (they’re not as good as everybody thinks they are). The rest of us who know about football will continue to have faith in the Green & Gold, who are only one game out of first place in a division the Pack can win. I’m not saying the defense doesn’t have major problems, it does, but it can be fixed. Six games left, and 12 coming back, maybe sooner, rather than later.

  82. By ChukyChez1 on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    TT is to blame for this mess. He picked the players & the coaches. He held on to bad QB back-ups, until it was to late to find any good ones. MM play calling is terrible. Even when Rogers does come back, this isn’t a play off worthy team.

  83. By Rusty Baker on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    @Mib, yes! Thank u! Only one game back guys, the season’s not over!!! 12 will most likely play against Minnesota, so here comes the SB run, don’t you worry your little hearts. I agree about the secondary, but not the firing of the coaching staff… It’ll all come together with the return of “The Man” Love ya Vic, don’t lose heart when you hear all the negative comments, plz.

  84. By Wade on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    F*** Vic!

  85. By Eddie on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    HEY! LET’S CAPITALIZE EVERYTHING AND LET PEOPLE KNOW JUST HOW F****** P***ED WE ARE!!!!

  86. By Scott on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    Bench Morgan Burnett. He cant handle the middle! How many times was Cruz allowed to roam the middle wide open? Stop the damn zone coverage Capers…it sucks!

  87. By Chris on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    Why was there no post game press conference?

  88. By packers_2k13 on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    I highly doubt Rodgers will play next week

  89. By Steve Corbett on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    Disappointing outcome. Not nearly the game we thought it would be. Nobody making plays and actually we look mediocre. No special teams zip, and still too many big plays against our deep backs. I don’t hear much about Picket or Raji and wonder if we will ever get the consistent rush that we need. Too often the opposing backs bounce it outside and win the one on ones and its been awhile since we won a third down battle in the trenches.

  90. By AzzysUniquePlushies on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    @BIG CHEESE Exactly! Thank you!
    Just gotta get rid of the haters and keep supporting our Packers and not lose hope.

  91. By Steve on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    Still time and we can win with Tolzien…not so sure we can win with Capers. D has to step up with ARod out, and they’re not doing it. Every opponent should get to 3rd and long because they’ll get a BIG play, lots of yards. Throw the ball on first and second down!!!

  92. By D2 on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    Someone fainted on the way to the podium. Press conference was called off. Rumor.. You heard it first. right here folks.

  93. By Captain Phil on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    If defences win championships the Pack needs a new defence staff. If Aaron stays hurt let him call the off plays ,coach M needs a break

  94. By Dan on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    I thought McCartneys conservative play calling doomed the Packers .Especially with 4th and 2 with eight minutes left and behind 2 scores. Never gave the team a chance to win by punting

  95. By dan on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    Defense isnt getting pressure up front, rushing three or four. Secondary obviously cant cover and doesnt understand the defensive schemes. This has been going on long enough to suggest that the coordinator doesnt know how to adjust to the mentality of some of our personnel. Giving up the amount of points that we’ve given up over the last few years, one would think that a change would be in order. It comes down to execution and our guys arent doing it, simple as that. Theres no accountablity on our team. I hear all the press conferences and i read all of Vics blogs. Although very entertaining, not realistic. Every other profession has accountability for failure. We are failing!!!
    In my particular unit in the military, we had a saying, failure is not an option. As an owner of Packer stock, i feel like this isnt part of the mindset of the organization. Failure is ok when we have injuries? Unsat!
    Hey Green Bay Packer organization, look up the Ranger Creed and read it to your players and staff!!! Its the type of mindset that we should have. For the record, Mr Thompson, thankyou for doing a wonderful job putting the correct players on our team. It unfortunate that they arent being used the way they should be. Must be frustrating. I wish our organization and fan base the best moving forward.

  96. By fromeo on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    BIG CHEESE, YOU BELONG ON A FOOTLONG SUB!! ‘HEY EVERY BODY, WERE JUST 1 GAME BACK, COME ON, THEY CAN STILL WIN THE DIVISION! TIME FOR YOU TO GET A REALITY CHECK!!! THIS GAME ISN’T ABOUT #12, HE CAN’T DO MIRACLES WEEK END AND WEEK OUT WHEN HE’S HEALTHY, IF CAN EVEN STAY HEALTHY WHEN HE RETURNS IS GOING TO BE A MIRACLE! GREN BAY HAS SERIOUS COACHING PROBLEMS, YOU NEED TO JUST WAKE UP AND RELIZE IT!!!!!

  97. By D2 on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    This is the first losing streak I am apart of as a Pack fan. So many babies losing their minds on here.. I’d rather not have read half of these messed up garbage comments.
    The Packs in rough waters tho that’s for sure. Should be fun to see what happens next.

  98. By fromeo on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    LOVE IT DAN. RIGHT ON THE MARK!!!

  99. By Mark on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    Good work, Eddie. Good to know you’ve got better things to do than troll.

  100. By Harvester on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    @ AzzysUniquePlushies, as long as number 12 is our QB, you won’t get rid of trolls and bandwagon fans. What maters is to remember that Packers fan will actually be worry and concern about the teams’ performance, while everyone else will talk about god knows what. I tend to tune out most the people who chat here (most people are never happy about anything packers. whether they win or lose)… which is why it took me so long to actually “make” a profile and start commenting on the website.

  101. By dan on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    I forgot to address the offense. Coach McCarthy is working within his means, all you can ask for.
    Collarbone fractures are generally 6-8 weeks for a full heal. Anything short of that involves further risk and more significant injury. Aside from the three pics, tolzien showed promise and much more poise. Remember, Rodgers had three years to learn. Give the kid a break.
    And lastly, Eddie Lacy should be rookie of the year. He’s an amazing athlete.

  102. By D2 on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    @BIG CHEESE & AzzysUniquePlushies. You two have some sense. Good to see some people are smart, level-headed and rational.

  103. By BIG CHEESE on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    romeo, you’re clueless. Go away boy…

  104. By BIG CHEESE on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    D2, a lot of trolling going on here. Keep the Faith. Go Pack Go…………romeo, just go.

  105. By DanielLee on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    I can’t believe how many people are just writing off the Packers. As a fan, I’m willing to admit that the Pack are struggling right now, but I’m not gonna trash talk the players or the staff. I’m sure everyone involved with the Packers franchise is doing what’s best for the team. Just accept the loss and the bad situation and keep supporting the greatest team in the NFL.

  106. By fromeo on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    BIG CHEESE,you no NOTHING ABOUT FOOTBALL!!! go and praise some high school team!!!

  107. By Harvester on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    @Big Cheese, stop feeding the troll. Fromeo is the same guy that a while ago called Ted Thompson, Ted Turner

  108. By BIG CHEESE on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    I do that too. I see you never went to school? Time for bed now kid. Mom probably doesn’t want you on the computer this late.

  109. By Craig on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    Play Matt Flynn already!!!!

  110. By Ron on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    Just goes to show how high quality a quarterback Rodgers is. He changes the motivation and momentum of the Packers as well as kills the motivation and momentum of the opposing team. Teams are not respecting the Packers because they dont fear our offense and our defense is just down and out. Guarantee if Rodgers could get in and just throw a few plays the team motivation would go through the roof. If Tolzien starts next game he cant let this game come with him to the Vikings, they will eat it up.

  111. By Scott on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    Said it last 2 weeks, time for Capers to go and take cheap stake Ted,I nicked named the defense ” Swiss cheese” so many hole

  112. By BIG CHEESE on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    @Harvester, you’re right. It’s just so easy with romeo; like shooting fish in a barrel. I saw the Ted Turner thing. I think his mom will send him to bed soon.

  113. By Harvester on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    @big cheese, hahahahahaha. I sure hope so!

  114. By Robert Ossig on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    DC and his “Zone Defense” GOTTA GO ! Called the point spread on this one right ! RIP 2013 season !

  115. By Richard on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    Matt Flynn was a good backup for Rodgers and I would like to know whether his arm is able to handle a game.

  116. By kevin on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    FIE DOM CAPERS, NOW!

  117. By kevin on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    fire^

  118. By Ryan on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    Fromeo obviously started watching football in 2010

  119. By kenkearns on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    This loss today against the Giants better wake up the Packer organization! Everyone looks like they can take a rest due to A-Rodgers being out. Our Defense has got to be one of the worst in the league!! We look like we play a “prevent” defense the whole game. Giant receivers were wide open all day. There is no hard tackling at all. No one looks like they want to hit anyone! Our head coach better wake up or our season will be over and not in the playoffs!!

  120. By Mr. Puke on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    I saw several plays where AJ Hawk looked pissed with the defense. They are a joke. The whole league is right ‘The Packers are soft’.

  121. By 1Broadcastboy on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    There’s not a team in the league than could manage the injury count the Packers have sustained and at key positions (and at times in consecutive weeks). The Packers will be the Vikings because they cannot exploit the secondary (which is weak). Winning the division is all that matters. This team can do that WITH Rodgers back. Without him the season is over, no doubt. The Pack must have him for Detroit. What should be a strength, the secondary, is a weakness and Capers is in charge. It’s on him. Coach Mc has to be less predictable in the red zone…that problem has existed all season.

  122. By fromeo on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    BIG CHEESE, i see your a 1 man team believing #12 will come back and win the super bowl!! Its okay to be upset. But when you under stand the game better, you’ll know that is more than 1 man that plays the game. IF you remember, 2011 , 15-1 worst defense in the league,won the division,lost in playoffs. But that doesn’t tell you we have a problem with the defense! if you know anything about football, it’s ‘offenses win games,defenses win championships’. I think most of the packer backers would prefer the CHAMPIONSHIPS!!!

  123. By fromeo on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    And bye the way BIG CHEESE, if you remember Vince Lombardi’s best saying ‘ WINNING ISN’T EVERY THING, ITS THE ONLY THING’! Bet he’s rolling over right now at all you half satisfied fans!!!!

  124. By 1Broadcastboy on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    fromeo, Here’s the part you are leaving out of your forensic expose of football. If the offense cannot keep the defense off the field an average defense becomes horrible. The Pack’s “D” is weak, no doubt…but it is not helped by the lack of offense that can take time off of the clock. Tolzien has yards, but could not sustain drives. GB’s defense has injuries and a lack of depth at linebacker the the secondary is a sieve. Still, the offense has to help and sustain some drives. That did not happen…time of possession does not lie and it plays a role in the effectiveness of the defense.

  125. By iluvmyteam on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    The Steelers beat the Lions and that’s great. But, then I remembered we’ve got to play the Steelers too! I had hoped for a sure win but now I’m not so sure…

  126. By BMas on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    The tackling is bad throughout the NFL but exceptionally so on the Packers. There were a few decent open field tackles today but still the hitting and bumping. McMillan looked ridiculous with his body block of a tackle at the goal line. Let’s make no mistake about it…. Aaron Rogers makes this team good and makes the Coaching staff look good. The rest of the Packers are average. It’s time to change the Coaching staff. Capers should not have been retained after last year. For this reason, McCarthy’s job should be on the line now. I like Tolzien. He’s making some mistakes but has done pretty good considering the situation. No studs on defense. Clay Matthews is the closest and I would characterize home as good but not very good.

  127. By Kevin K on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    Our defense is actually giving up more ppg than we did in 2012…scary. The excuse then was that the offense was too explosive, scoring too fast, and defense was tired. Now, we have a running game which eats up more clock, higher time of possession, but not scoring as many points because offense has fewer possessions. The defense is still giving up as many or more points.

    I remember the talk being how in year 1 of Dom’s defends they had to be fairly vanilla due to it being a new system. In years 2 and beyond in Dom’s defense they could expand the play book. Since year 1, we seem to have way more communication breakdowns leading to big plays. Maybe time to go back to basics?

  128. By Kevin K on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    Meant to say giving up more ppg than 2011, 2012 was only 21 ppg, 22 in 2011, 23 ppg this year…

  129. By Packer Joe on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    if this secondary spent as much time working on its coverage as it does on its hairdoos it would be awesome….

    like someone else posted, give AR the rest of the year off and come back with a revamped D next season because the current one doesn’t have a clue, aside from Claymaker….

  130. By fromeo on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    @1Broadcastboy, The offense has to put points on the board,witch they did. they have to control the ball a little longer ,but if you have a defense, you can win with 13 points!

  131. By NCPACKERMAN on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    Want to know the difference in this game. Look at the way the Packer defense tackles. The Packers tackle at the shoulder pads and up. The giants tackle from the waist down. The Giant running backs were driving the Packer players back two to five yards AFTER CONTACT!!!! Tackling fundamentals are supposed to be taught in training camp!!

    On the Paul interception, the offensive tackles is suppose to block down on the defensive man legs to get his hands down. The offensive tackle did not even make an attempt to block Paul low. Little things kill the Packers every week!!!!!!!!!

  132. By old fan on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    A franchise quarterback and defense win championships-the packers have neither right now.

    Somebody tell MM you can’t run the ball down peoples throats if your Defense can’t stop anybody. How many games has Minnesota won with the best back in football?

    Most of you are spoiled with the Favre and Rodgers eras-welcome back to the 70’s and 80’s.

  133. By disgusted on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    A defense that cannot pressure the opposing quarterback, a sub par secondary and a starting qb that is very green.

    PU

  134. By The Old Salt on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    Suppose that instead of the Green Bay Packers we were fans of the Green Bay Philharmonic Orchestra and they were playing a concert in a major venue like Carnegie Hall. How many klunkers or bad notes would be allowed before the concertgoers and music afficionados start booing and then walk out, and their concerts are no longer selling out?
    What do you suppose the board would do about it? Believe me, concert soloists seldom are paid six to seven figure salaries.
    Compared to football players, concert musicians are highly underrated. By the way,if you want to watch a defensive backfield that really came to play, watch the 4th Quarter of the Lions-Steeler Game, striped shirts and all!

  135. By Steve on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    Anybody make big $$$ betting against the Pack the last 2 weeks? I did. I’m a big Cheesehead but use common sense in betting.
    Dom Capers needs to vacate and we need some toughness everywhere!

  136. By JZ on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    All the packer backers need to be realistic, that includes me, any playoff hope will be a challenge the way the the defense is playing. And I’m not a dr. but I doubt that ARod is back before the Detroit game, even that game is going to be tough for him to make simply because the injury needs to heal before they will let him play. While we are not out of the playoffs yet, it is not encouraging that GB will be in the playoffs this year.

  137. By montanapackfan on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    Duplicate comment deleted again…seems like our moderator sides more with the trolls here than honest fans.

    Roll on Green Roll on

  138. By David on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    You cant win in the NFL , with 3 interceptions. offense sucks, defense SUCKS and the coaching sucks, all of them… It is time, to start cutting people.

  139. By zinger on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    The game has past Capers by and is to fast now for him to adjust to now. TT and his draft and develop may work occasionally, but I don’t see it happening on defense. And for the optomists, why do you think it will be different next year??

  140. By Scott on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    ARod wont be back anytime before the Dallas game. Start Matt Flynn until then and we might have a chance. Nick Perry needs to play and show he is worthy of a 1st round pick.

    Also did BJ Raji even play????? that guy is worthless.

  141. By indypack on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    The defense lacks players. There’s no Nick Collins or Charles Woodson, no Nick Barnett or Cullen Jenkins. Dom Capers didn’t become bad overnight. He’s been in the league a few years for a reason. The secondary is still relatively young but as a whole the players just aren’t good enough to make enough stops.
    Tolzien looks pretty good for the position he’s in. There’s no way we can expect a rookie QB to drastically alter games. It just doesn’t happen. And Flynn is right where he needs to be- backing up Tolzien.

  142. By TJ Storff on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    Not meant to be this season. Defense finally makes a critical stop forcing the Giants to punt—n then any Packer fan wants to vomit—well at least this 60yr old fan in New Jersey does!!!

  143. By Ed on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    A truly pitiful performance.
    These guys could make Vince Lombardi quit.
    Hopefully some draft choices and a change of defensive coordinator will improve things next year.
    This season is over!

  144. By domcapersandourdsuck on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    I agree with most of you season is over rebuild by firing the coaching staff and all of the defense…

  145. By Paul Prosnick on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    Could you guys imagine going into new Orleans with our defense in the playoffs ? How many do they put up my guess at least 50

  146. By jay on Nov 17, 2013 | Reply

    aron is our weak link not tuff enough to play he will get hurt again not a farve we were spoiled great team need a qb

  147. By Magd on Nov 18, 2013 | Reply

    I think it’s time to get rid of Dom Capers.

  148. By john on Nov 18, 2013 | Reply

    Some problems are obvious: poor game planning (McCarthy), poor defense (Capers). But what bothers me the most is a complete lack of emotion on the part of the whole team. This is football and it must be there in order to win. Giants fans were into it after their team started 0-6. This game also did a good job of exploding the myth of TT drafting…home grown depth is not there.

  149. By Beau on Nov 18, 2013 | Reply

    Wow, I must have watched a different game then you all did, while the loss hurts, Scott connected 70% of the time for over 300 yards. Yes 3 int. will kill you and that is rookie thing (OH I forgot, he is a rookie) Defense still needs a lot of work but at least looked slightly improved.

    Take away the int.’s and quit running the ball up the middle and that was a win for the Pack. But it is a loss, it hurts and we need to find ways to win. Don’t be fare-wheatear fans (we have a 3rd string QB in FCOL) and lots of other injuries on both sides of the line.

  150. By Green Tide on Nov 18, 2013 | Reply

    GB seems to have talent but they can not get consistent good play out of the offense or defense. That seems to point to issues with coaching and leadership.

    I am not certain MM is the great coach everyone makes him out to be, nor is the the horribly predictable play caller others claim. His statements of “Things must change” fell on totally deaf ears. So how effective is he?

    I will agree that Dom Capers and the defense need to be re-evaluated. Either he is not getting through to them with his vision or they are not the athletes they should be.

  151. By Green Tide on Nov 18, 2013 | Reply

    The phrase “We are still only one game out” doesn’t solve anything and it doesn’t make you some type of highly dedicated and venerable fan. Basing the team’s potential success on other teams required failures is not a winning strategy. Hurray!!!! We only stink slightly less than the other guys.

    A little frustrating to watch all this talent (as seen by the flashes of briliance seen during the game) get wasted on consistent below average performances or failure during “crunch time”.

  152. By Mark on Nov 18, 2013 | Reply

    I miss Aaron Rodgers.

  153. By fromeo on Nov 18, 2013 | Reply

    BEAU, I no its a 3rd string QB,but your not looking at the WHOLE picture. This has been going on for 3 years now! wake up and smell the coffee!!!!! The defense is the BIG problem. I think they could of won some of the games that they lost with Tolzien, if we had a Defense!!!! THIS GOES BACK EVEN WITH ROGERS PLAYING!! Did you watch the Cincinnati game, or even games that they won!,WASHINGTON,RAVENS, ETC. To many points given up!

  154. By fromeo on Nov 18, 2013 | Reply

    I would love to see the Packers play Jacksonville right now !!! The spread would be probably EVEN!!!

  155. By diehardpackfan on Nov 18, 2013 | Reply

    MM certainly is not a great motivator, his play-calling at times is questionable, and Dom Capers is not the defensive genius he’s made out to be.

    It’s time to make Jon Gruden an offer he can’t refuse. After the last game this season, that is. Eric Mangini could possibly be considered for the Def Coord job.

  156. By jay on Nov 18, 2013 | Reply

    after the big money was paid mm and rogers have no drive or emotion to the game their goal was met only the fans care

  157. By william bartlow on Nov 18, 2013 | Reply

    At 5&5 I see our problems as I did 9 weeks ago Very soft defense that is very limited on talent. What is taking place now is what happens when put you all your eggs in one basket. I am just not sure with AROD and this defense we can win at all going down the wire. No leaders on defense and now no leaders on offense adds up to major problems.
    If this was flag football we would be undefeated, but then again you can’t win them all I guess, Packer forever,Dixie Bill.

  158. By Green Tide on Nov 18, 2013 | Reply

    To quote a 49r troll after opening day, “You guys need to realize you are no longer an elite team in the league.”

    Oh well back to the chant from the 80’s, “They will be better next year.”

  159. By BobK on Nov 18, 2013 | Reply

    jay…really…seriously? Is that what happened to you the last time you got a raise in your job?

  160. By BobK on Nov 18, 2013 | Reply

    Fromeo…another quote from Lombardi is similar…”Winning isn’t everything, the desire to win is”. I’m not seeing the full committment or desire to win. On defence I saw no fire in the eyes, no anger after the game, no resolve. They won’t get it done like that.

  161. By Odiebear on Nov 18, 2013 | Reply

    Been saying it all along-the DC named DC needs to be on the sideline kicking some butt and calling out names. He is useless to us in the booth. Our defense is finally exposed, when there aren’t 40+ points put on the board to defeat the agressors. Thompson/McCarthy, I have said it before-get rid of him while we still have talent on Defense and can possibly score some wins. Don’t see Ryan in the booth for New Orleans-don’t see them losing much either-hmmmm….

  162. By Ted Thompson on Nov 18, 2013 | Reply

    Somebody please help me get a decent defence here. Wait, I’ll just wait till the offseason and tell everyone we have fixed our defence for the fourth year in a row. Next year lets also let go of all our quarterbacks, and maybe Rodgers will be healthy enough to cover for my extreme lack of football intelligence. Come on Ted get it right. In Green Bay 500 is not acceptable! Ps, if anyone with any pull ever listens to the people who keep this team financially stable, please get rid of Dom capers. There is a clear pattern of being decent for a year maybe two tops, and then everyone figures home out and his defenses get demolished. It’s just the cold hard facts.

  163. By fromeo on Nov 18, 2013 | Reply

    I THINK the stock holders should be the ones to hire and fire management,and coaches!!!

  164. By jay on Nov 18, 2013 | Reply

    bob really i own a large company when ever i over paid i got less. i see it in their eyes

  165. By fromeo on Nov 18, 2013 | Reply

    Anybody watch the PATRIOTS/PANTHERS game. Green Bay Defensive Coordinator CAPERS SHOULD TAKE LESSONS FROM THE PATRIOTS DEFENSIVE COACH! They are playing with 5 STARTERS OUT!!! CHECK OUT THE STATS CAPER!!! WATCHING THAT GAME I NOW NO THAT CAPER TOTAL SUCKS!!!!!!

  166. By Ramvo tabs on Nov 21, 2013 | Reply

    Learn, Capers. LEARN! If you start with more wide recievers when you are playing defensive than linebackers. WHAT THE FHAK?!?!

  167. By Kale on Nov 21, 2013 | Reply

    Ramvo, you are right! Why doesn’t Caper know? LEARN YOUR FRACKIN’ LESSON! REJECT!!!

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