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McCarthy says Rodgers ‘slim to none’ for Thursday

Posted by Vic Ketchman, packers.com editor on November 25, 2013 – 2:29 pm

GREEN BAY–Quarterback Aaron Rodgers is likely not to play in Thursday’s game at Detroit.

“He would like to go. Based on the information … I would say he’s slim to none. It would be a huge stretch for him to play in this game,” Packers Head Coach Mike McCarthy said on Monday.

McCarthy did not announce who his starting quarterback will be for Thursday’s game.

“Matt (Flynn) played very well. He deserves to start. I like the way Scott (Tolzien) has grown. We’re going to do everything we can to make sure both are ready,” McCarthy said.

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72 Responses to “McCarthy says Rodgers ‘slim to none’ for Thursday”

  1. By mikey77750 on Nov 25, 2013 | Reply

    The Packers can afford to wait one more week with sitting Rodgers, and then he should be ready for the Atlanta game. We can still win this division by waiting one more week, even if we lose on Thursday…

  2. By Cory on Nov 25, 2013 | Reply

    Might as well put him on season ending I.R. As bad as the division is, we don’t stand a chance at beating Detroit and thus winning division. At least then he would be guaranteed to enter offseason healthy (apparently his goal)…McCarthy and Thompson have both been exposed – Rodgers made both of them…Thank goodness Burnett got that extension…HE’S F ING TERRIBLE- Obviously Ted has gone completely senile.

  3. By Ryan on Nov 25, 2013 | Reply

    Cory, what is the point of insulting someone you don’t know? The Coaches and TT obviously know more than we do, watching at home. We’re still in good shape in the North, and we are more than capable to pull out a win in Detroit. Keep the faith; there’s a reason you cheer for this team.

  4. By hawgnsonstv on Nov 25, 2013 | Reply

    people do not panic. Pack will win the Super Bowl

  5. By Jay on Nov 25, 2013 | Reply

    Debbie downer. We do have a chance. Detroit just lost to Tampa Bay. Tampa Bay!!!!

  6. By Dean Hoover on Nov 25, 2013 | Reply

    To be honest, the Packers need to worry more about the defense than who is going to play QB on Thursday. The Lions are also a good offensive team with quality receivers. Matt Flynn proved that he can score points, but it won’t matter if the defense allows Detroit to score more.

  7. By Jay on Nov 25, 2013 | Reply

    And also it is really easy for us to criticize, sitting on the couch eating chicken wings. We no nothing compared to TT and MM.

  8. By fanskarma on Nov 25, 2013 | Reply

    Yes, cory, this secondary has absolutely been horrific. I actually thought it was going to be ok this year. but every week you can see how the opposing qb has their best day:

    kaep. hit 70% and 3 td’s vs. gb. only 53% and 8 td 7 int since.
    eli: best game of his year last week. back to 53% this week.

    I can’t wait to see how bad they are vs. tony romo, ben roethlisberger and stafford with johnson. it’s going to be ugly.

    fire tt, mccarthy and capers and give jon gruden a kings ransom to get here

  9. By Chuck Hopper on Nov 25, 2013 | Reply

    I think Flynn can at least move the chains, keep possession , limit turnovers and put some points on the board. That may be enough to allow us to beat Detroit (but the D has to show up all game). And that concerns me more than the offense.

    Playing Rodgers too soon isn’t smart, one hit and he could be done for the season so waiting until he’s 100% makes sense.

  10. By Carson on Nov 25, 2013 | Reply

    Hey Cory if you don’t like the structure ofthe organization you can jump on the Seahawks bandwagon.

    I agree with Ryan, that even a loss this Thursday doesn’t mean we’re out of it for the Division. Just look at how Detroit continually shoots themselves in the foot.

    TT’s job is as safe as Rodgers.

  11. By fanskarma on Nov 25, 2013 | Reply

    i mean come on Ponder 70% completion rate yesterday in a must win game at home? f’ing joke

  12. By MARCI on Nov 25, 2013 | Reply

    I TOTALLY understand and respect wanting to protect Aaron and ultimately long term health should ALWAYS be considered. With that said, however, there are thousands of Pack fans out there sitting on the edge of their seats waiting for his return and the salvation of this season. I say, start Flynn and if he’s able to hold his own and keep us in a position to win, great. If not put some extra wraps, braces, pads whatever and send Aaron in to wrap up the game. It’s obvious to everyone (except maybe McCarthy) that Tolzein is NOT the man for the job and he shouldn’t even be considered to start or even play in the game.

  13. By Dave on Nov 25, 2013 | Reply

    That the reason Capers is no longer in Houston. His defense sucked down here as well.

  14. By Josh on Nov 25, 2013 | Reply

    On what planet do you think the Packers can’t beat Detroit even with Matt Flynn. Both the Bears and Lions just lost to sub 500 teams and both look atrocious on both sides of the ball. Matt Flynn gives us a way different (and better) look to run our schemes that Tolzien doesn’t have. We have a great track record with beating the Lions and if Lacy has another 100 yard day, we will win a close game.

  15. By keyonta on Nov 25, 2013 | Reply

    I would Start Matt Flynn And Make Rodgers Suit Up But The Defense And The Offensive Play Calling and special Teams Are The Problem

  16. By Solberg on Nov 25, 2013 | Reply

    When has it become unacceptable to criticize the coaches and Gm?? They are not gods. And if it’s deserved I’m all for it! There is no way anyone could think that Tolzien was a better QB than Flynn! Thompson was myopic and I feel held a grudge when Flynn left. McCarthy I bet felt that he could turn Tolzien into a winner because he is a QB “guru”. Wrong!
    Thompson and McCarthy should be kissing the ground that 1st Favre then Rodgers walk on. Those to future hall of famers made those guys a lot of money and got them a lot of respect. Packer Nation finally sees what kind of team we really have without Rodgers.

  17. By Jacqueline Davis on Nov 25, 2013 | Reply

    Keep Aaron out and save him for playoffs. Flynn will get the job done against Detroit.
    Let’s just try to figure out what to do with the defense. They look terrible, allowing the run and not stopping on third downs. Allowing teams to score high numbers.

  18. By Dolcetto on Nov 25, 2013 | Reply

    What will a still “suffering” Rogers help? Nothing! Time will tell where the packers will go this Season…but no way to push Rogers…if he´s fine an ready he´ll give the answer on the field!

  19. By fanskarma on Nov 25, 2013 | Reply

    just think if tt and mccarthy actually kept vince young. he would have won 1 or 2 games, considering he has a 62% winning %. also makes plays with legs.

  20. By fanskarma on Nov 25, 2013 | Reply

    for some reason this sight hasn’t let me put what will happen on thursday:

    detroit 52 gb 17

    stafford 74% 582 yds, 6 tds
    johnson 24 receptions, 400+ yds, 5 tds

  21. By fanskarma on Nov 25, 2013 | Reply

    oh and about 6 fist pumps by jim schwartz. skip the game fellow packer fans

  22. By keyonta on Nov 25, 2013 | Reply

    I am Ready For A New Head Coach…

  23. By Jack on Nov 25, 2013 | Reply

    Jay: You think so? We lost to the Minnesota Vikings…Minnesota!!

  24. By Bob on Nov 25, 2013 | Reply

    I haven’t given up on the Packers yet for this season, but it is much more important to keep Rogers health interests in the long run as the primary concern. Even if Rogers does come back soon enough, our defense needs a dose of some kind of miracle to make it to the playoffs, let alone deep into the playoffs. I will never say never because look at what happened in 2010, but if Rogers does not come back, I don’t see them coming close to that this year.

  25. By Aldair on Nov 25, 2013 | Reply

    Gotta say i had lost hope of us winning yesterdays game but matt flynn showed us that the Packers are still a good team. we got a bit sloppy but i know we can beat detroit GO PACK!

  26. By Kevin Hodgson on Nov 25, 2013 | Reply

    I think the key point around these is that the NFC North has 4 mediocre teams this year. Minn have put their faith in Peterson, so everyone stops him (or tries to). Detroit were poor against us (without Mega-tron) and we need that kind of performance again (from them AND US), and Chicago only play well when they need to (losing to STL????). Whoever wins the Division – Us I hope – will have a tough ride through the playoffs. And I don’t think the Defensive Secondary has been good enough either – the linebackers have been good, even the replacements and I think Neal has had a great season on the line, but nobody in the secondary has been consistent.

  27. By verduratea on Nov 25, 2013 | Reply

    Remember how many injuries of key players besides the obvious Aaron Rodgers the Pack has. Keep Aaron out until he is 100%, if not for him, then for the team. He needs to be healthy for more then 1 game and hopefully we can still be in the play offs this year. Flynn is a good temporary fix until Rodgers is well and our defense needs to get better. Go Pack! .

  28. By fanskarma on Nov 25, 2013 | Reply

    in 2010 they were 8-6 with some pretty bad losses that year (at home vs. miami, vs. a terrible redskin team) and then they got hot.

    which is no way to lead a team.

    mccarthy is not a good coach. how he got hired from sf as an OC is beyond me, considering SF was terrible back then.

    2009 last game vs. arizona, next week vs. arizona. who outcoached who? I think Kurt Warner had more Td’s than imcompletions that game.

    this regime needs to go

  29. By Mike on Nov 25, 2013 | Reply

    What’s with all of this talk about our division being so tough to win? Did you not realize that Detroit just lost to Tampa Bay at home, and Chicago was beaten by the Rams?

    This could be the start of their usual collapse… Its not over. Need I remind you that the Bears put up 9 points against the Packers in their last meeting. If they win this Thursday, that puts them in a good position against Atlanta.

    If you are dead set on cursing and crying foul against the coaches, then you need to learn how to move on. Its just a game, and you’re merely WATCHING.

  30. By schapp on Nov 25, 2013 | Reply

    Guys, I know the secondary numbers are awful, but that’s not an indictment of the individual players necessarily. We’ve been in this stinking 3-4 of Capers’ without getting any pressure on opposing qb’s. that’s why we’re getting torched, the damn scheme has overly slow DE-type LBs dropping into crucial zones in the 7-15 yard range as well as gambles in bringing DBs on blitzes who are not particularly skilled or effective at blitzing. The BIGGEST ISSUE is lack of pressure. Cullen Jenkins opposite Clay Matthews allowed us to generate terrific pressure when bringing 4, and Woodson blitzing was a great turnover creator. Besides Matthews when healthy, we don’t have any other down guys that command a double team. Not even Raji who tends to (seemingly) take plays off. That’s the whole basis of the 3-4, and if your down guys are easily blocked 1v1, you’re torched. We need to get rid of Capers. I lost complete confidence in him when he couldn’t make any adjustments against CK and the 49ers… anyone with basic knowledge of football would understand you can’t run man blitzes against a scrambling qb.

  31. By Mike on Nov 25, 2013 | Reply

    The Lions, I mean, put up 9 points…. hehe not the bears…

  32. By Joe on Nov 25, 2013 | Reply

    Man, I would love to see what all you whiners would do if this team were like the Browns, Raiders, or Jaguars! Those three teams in recent years have shown what terrible coaching does to a team and it’s prospects! While maybe the coaching isn’t “coach of the year” caliber this year, the Packers have been the playoffs all but one year with Rodgers at the helm. One year, which was the first year he started. Amazing to think that 27 other teams in this league would love to be able to say they are that consistent, and have that consistent of coaching, but here we are, a bunch of people complaining about it.

  33. By Tom on Nov 25, 2013 | Reply

    Jack… Did I miss a game? When did we lose to Minnesota?

  34. By Justin Sparapani on Nov 25, 2013 | Reply

    I’m an optimist and a die hard Pack fan, but Rodgers can’t help the D play any better, man. He can give the team morale and MAYBE get some productive defense, but an arm can only take a team so far. We saw that when we lost to the Giants in the Divisional round 2 years ago. Ultimately, while I would like us to win the division, if we can’t, I’d A) prefer Detroit to win it over Chicago, and B) would be fine with a nice safety in the draft, Clinton-Dix ideally

  35. By Mike on Nov 25, 2013 | Reply

    Wow Schapp, clearly YOU should be the defensive coordinator. You’d almost certainly be better. Clearly, the healthy defense that was earlier this season was pretty dang effective. Lots of those guys are not playing right now.

    Clearly, your zeal in Football knowledge is superior to ours as you have the brains to overlook the obvious. Clearly, someone who cannot see even the most OBVIOUS of facts that once again we have Matthews and no equal on the other end (like in previous years). You sir are a genius.

  36. By Joanne on Nov 25, 2013 | Reply

    We can still get in the playoffs, but we’ve got to start Matt Flynn. Don’t understand why MM held off until the 2nd half to start Flynn. Flynn beat Detroit before and can do it again.

  37. By firemanjohn on Nov 25, 2013 | Reply

    I really believe this situation with Aaron Rodgers is every packer fan’s nightmare but maybe there is a silver lining to this dark cloud , this team is very weak without him TT needs a reality check and build a better team around him . Plus a backup quarterback

  38. By tzag on Nov 25, 2013 | Reply

    I’m confused as to what is holding up McCarthy decision on what QB to start. If Rodgers is out then what’s the delay. I can’t imagine he’s on the fence between Flynn and Tolzien. I hope he is preparing Flynn with the starters right now as we have two more days before Thursday’s game.

  39. By mike on Nov 25, 2013 | Reply

    Will Barack McCarthy stop saying such silly stuff.. either he is losing it or lives on another planet.. His proclamations are just wrong .. the stuff about Tolzien being the answer ( wrong) ..no interest in Flynn.(wrong). Mike .. AR might play this week.. stop letting the entire league know whats coming .. the comments have no valve .just Apologize for another awful coaching job.. and go home! or maybe take next week off .. do us all a favor .. AR can call the plays either from sideline or under center

  40. By joe on Nov 25, 2013 | Reply

    Going 5-6 would look real bad but the way our division is playing we can hold off one more week. We just need to hang in there while our stud qb is resting, rodgers will come back soon enough and save the day im sure of it.

  41. By hendertj on Nov 25, 2013 | Reply

    Those of you calling for Thompson’s head… Seriously?

    Ted Thompson has built a team that, when Aaron Rodgers is healthy, is a 12-4, 11-5 team with 50 OF THE 53 ON THE ROSTER BEING DRAFTED BY THOMPSON HIMSELF (that number could be at 49 or 48 with recent injuries). This is a quarterback-driven league. Unless you’re lucky enough to have a backup like McCown who somehow keeps playing at a high level, your team is going to struggle when the franchise QB goes down.

    Those of you calling for Capers’ head…. Yeah, I agree. That system obviously isn’t working. The player talent is there, so we have to start holding Capers accountable.

  42. By PREACHER on Nov 25, 2013 | Reply


  43. By PREACHER on Nov 25, 2013 | Reply

    @ hendert You forgot 15-1! Then lost to Giants in playoffs,excuse me, I meant ‘GOT THERE -SSES KICKED IN THE PLAYOFFS!!! Had the WORST defense in the NFL! TURNERS OVERRATED!!!

  44. By hendertj on Nov 25, 2013 | Reply

    @PREACHER Turner? Not sure what you mean. Here’s the deal… I was agreeing about the defense, but I’m not going to blame that on personnel (even though our safeties make some questionable choices).

  45. By Packerfan on Nov 25, 2013 | Reply

    Someone should take Mike out back and shoot him

  46. By mike on Nov 25, 2013 | Reply

    MM not worried about the QBs being ready ..IM WORRIED ABOUT YOU BEING READY!! you lost another game with bad moves!

  47. By PREACHER on Nov 25, 2013 | Reply

    Did any body watch the Broncos/Patriots game last night!! Did you see what the Patriots did to the BRONCOS! Yes, THE BRONCOS! Down 24-0 at halftime! Came back and won 31-24! All they did was play WITHOUT 5 STARTERS AND STARTED 5 ROOKIES!!! MUST BE THE COACHING!!!!

  48. By George on Nov 25, 2013 | Reply

    Accusing us intelligent people of being fair weather fans or telling us to go root for another team because we take exception to the horrific coaching and poor management of this team is the same as calling someone UN-American because they disagree with the policies of our administration. The management of this team sucks just look at the defensive statistics since 2009 when Capers took over. Who brought him here? Who keeps him here? Thompson. And I’m not a fan because I’d like to see my team not get scorched every week? This blind allegiance to old Ted and his incompetence is actually what’s wrong with the Green Bay fan base. We don’t have to love Thompson to love the Packers just like you don’t have to love Obama or Bush to love the USA. Our team rocks. The management of our team sucks. Ok TT trolls, light me up….

  49. By fanskarma on Nov 25, 2013 | Reply

    AGREED 100% Thompson Mccarthy and capers all need to go. Supposedly this is the most storied franchise in NFL history, but we have average at best leadership. and don’t give me this 50 of 53 from draft. Ted loves to lead the league in undrafted free agents (i.e. lacking of talent to get drafted).

    yes, he’s hit on a few, but ted needs to adjust and he doesn’t.

    if the QB is the end all be all, doesn’t it make sense to have a defensive minded head coach to complement? I’m tired of the mike sherman and mike mccarthy supposed offensive guru’s who aren’t.

  50. By KyPackerFan on Nov 25, 2013 | Reply

    What was the deal with the 2 point conversion attempt; that was a really stupid call. 1 more point doesn’t change the game scoring or outcome. But getting the sure Pt after would probably give us a win in regulation time.
    A-Rod needs to sit Thursday with Matt Flynn starting at QB. If our D would not play so soft on their coverage they would be somewhat better.

  51. By FiveO Packer Fan on Nov 25, 2013 | Reply

    It must be THE COACHING! Signing Vince Young then Senaca Wallace. WHAT WERE THEY THINKING!

  52. By Frank on Nov 25, 2013 | Reply

    Please call Ron Wolf and Lovie Smith! Lovie must be itching to get back by now!

  53. By Brian on Nov 25, 2013 | Reply

    Three weeks after Rogers’ non throwing shoulder injury and he’s not expected to play yet?

    Love him or hate him but Brett Favre wouldn’t have missed all these games… He started 297 consecutive regular season games and he was hit by the best and most brutal game after game.

  54. By Frank on Nov 25, 2013 | Reply

    Bravo Brian….remember Favre playing with a fractured thumb on his throwing hand! Rodgers wants to play, but we are dealing with a bunch of administrative cowards…let him play…take some F…ing risks….or your season is over!

  55. By Cheryl on Nov 25, 2013 | Reply

    I can’t believe McCarthy didn’t start Flynn yesterday. If he didn’t have Aaron he dang sure needs Flynn in. Keep Tolzein on the bench, us fans want the Pack in the playoffs! Tolzein isn’t going to get you there.

  56. By Rjripper on Nov 25, 2013 | Reply

    I have to agree the NFC north is a very weak div. And is up for grabs, even if the Pack lose Thur. Det. is always good for a quick start only to fizzle out the latter part of the season, and the Bears, well da Bears are another weak team and the Queens well their still trying to find themselves this year. The packs prob. is on Defense, one word. HORRIBLE………….Or maybe Swiss cheese, when you let a Q.B. like Ponder throw as good as he did yesterday, he looked like a pro bowl Q.B. and he is just a 3rd string at best…………….That’s where we need help………

  57. By Frank on Nov 25, 2013 | Reply

    Forget about Ponder….they let John Kuhn’s identicle twin rush for 91 yards on 9 carries…WTF!

  58. By Frank on Nov 25, 2013 | Reply

    By the way, has anyone seen BJ Raji….is he still in the NFL?

  59. By Frank on Nov 25, 2013 | Reply

    ………if he is….can he please make a tackle!

  60. By suz on Nov 25, 2013 | Reply

    Rogers needs to be 100% before he gets back on the field. We dont want a repeat injury. Let Flynn take us to a win and make the defense earn their money…Flynn gives the players confidence….Until we get our quarterback healed….

  61. By ctyc yty on Nov 25, 2013 | Reply

    if rodgers can’t play matt should clearly be the starter

  62. By Jim on Nov 25, 2013 | Reply

    Some of you guys just kill me. If you want to rip Capers, that’s fine he’s probably earned it. But try to maintain some semblance of intelligence

    1) Going for two was a mistake only in hindsight. At the time, going for 2 gave you a 1 possession game. Going for 1 or not getting the two both give you a 2 possession game. There’s not a coach in the NFL that wouldn’t have gone for two, especially w/the way our D was playing.

    2) Did it ever occur to you that McCarthy’s not announcing his starter so that the Lions have to prepare for them both?


  63. By sandy becker on Nov 25, 2013 | Reply

    KC has 2 losses and look Great…haven’t been to a Superbowl since the 1st one!! We beat them and then the Raiders in # 2 and then the Pats and the Steelers! What are people Yappa Yappa Yappin’ about??!! Are ya watching the Forty Whiners with a Healthy team leading by only 7 against the hapless Washington NATIVES?? The Lions and Bears lost to Horrible teams with FAR more starters than the PACK!! How can any of you Wacked Out Headhunters be calling for a Coaching & GM Change??!! What…seriously is wrong with YOU?!

  64. By Fred Beam on Nov 25, 2013 | Reply

    this season failure is on tt his refusal to make any moves in the free agent market like ron wolf did has cost us big time over the last five years we have the best player in the nfl in rodgers and he surronds him with late round picks and undrafted free agents now i know why farve wanted out his last couple of years i hope i,m wrong but as long as tt is in charge of personal we won,t be going to any super bowl no matter what go pack

  65. By sandy becker on Nov 25, 2013 | Reply

    Well fred Beam- Look at matt Ryan and the Falcons who consistently play in Free Agency…NOW they’re Just an OLD team that has 2 wins after being in the NFC Championship Game- Wasting your future on OLD Free Agents is NOT the way to build a Dynasty…maybe a 1 YEAR Super Bowl run if Luck and Lack of injuries are on your side- But TT knows what he’s doing-

  66. By Rusty Draper on Nov 25, 2013 | Reply

    Yea it kills me to see A.Rodg on the sideline . Yes I want him to play. What am I willing to risk to have that happen.Not a gosh darn thing.Can he play ? Will he play ? Should he play ? I don’t know . What do I know. I know wit T.T & M.M. we got us another Super Bowl . So I will leave those decisions up to Dr . Pepper Burress and Coach Mike. They will do what is best for the player ,the team and the Packer Nation. The rest of you armchair quarterbacks can kiss it. Go Pack or Go Home !

  67. By Jessie on Nov 26, 2013 | Reply

    He won’t play against Atlanta. That’s a bad injury he has at least another 2-3 weeks out.

  68. By Bryan on Nov 26, 2013 | Reply

    all of you saying mccarthy and thompson need to go, you are actually the ones who need to go. If rodgers had never gotten hurt this year, we all know the pack wouldn’t be in this situation and you wouldn’t want anyone to lose their job. this is one of the best organizations in the entire league, year-to-year. Also, who was it Matt Flynn threw for 6 TD against two years ago? i know it’s a different Lions team but have some faith! The Lions this year are a joke. and once we get our real quarterback back we can beat the bears. how is a division championship out of reach?

  69. By PackerFanInAZ on Nov 26, 2013 | Reply

    I’m in agreement with Bryan and Rusty. It’s very easy to throw stones at TT, MM, and DC from the couch. Any true Packer fan is behind the organization, coaches, and the team through the good times, rough patches, and the losses. It’s a fact, GB’s D is struggling right now, Rodger’s and some of the other key players are either injured or side-lined, but we’re still right in the thick of it in the NFC North! And for those of you so-called “fans” with short memories, the Packers have faced adversity on many occasions in previous seasons, but in the end they somehow found a way to get it done. And as for the Thanksgiving showdown against the Lions… any student of the game knows that Detroit can be had by the Pack… Go Pack Go!

  70. By Jeff Mykel on Nov 27, 2013 | Reply

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  71. By richard on Nov 27, 2013 | Reply

    Bye Bye Jonathan. Nice contribution this year. Get TT a nice Christmas present before you leave town.

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