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Ask Vic Halftime: Takeaways not enough to beat Lions

Posted by Vic Ketchman, packers.com editor on November 28, 2013 – 1:04 pm

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Gerald from Wausaukee, WI

What are you most thankful for this Thanksgiving?

I’m thankful for my family’s health, the opportunity to watch this wonderful football game and the fans that grace this column with their readership. I have a lot more for which to be thankful, but I can start with those three.

Joey from Rhinelander, WI

Vic, everyone has been criticizing our tackling as the problem with our defense lately. This game, the tackling seems fine, but the Lions are having huge holes to run through and wide open receivers. Is our defense this bad or are the Lions this good?

The Packers’ run defense has fallen on hard times. Everything on defense begins with stopping the run and the Packers aren’t doing it. The Lions are a pass-first team, but not in this game. What’s that tell you?

Bob from Dubuque, IA

Why does Green Bay give up the pass in the middle always?

It’s difficult to get any depth with your linebackers when you’re having to concentrate on stopping the run. If the Packers could stop the run, they could get a deeper drop with their inside linebackers.

Devon from Ortega, CA

When is Rodgers supposed to be back?

If I’m reading this week’s return to practice correctly, I think it’s fair to expect Aaron Rodgers to be back under center in the next game, against Atlanta.

Bill from Alexander, AR

So when do you think the Packers are going to fix the defense? How do they fix it?

Does that fumble return for a touchdown by Morgan Burnett fix anything? That’s what it’s going to take for this defense to be productive, I believe, because this is not a yardage defense. That’s becoming painfully obvious. Fixing this defense, in my opinion, is going to require another offseason of draft and develop.

Tony from Saint Paul, MN

Vic, what do the Packers need to do in the second half to win the game?

They need to gain yards, score points and control the clock on offense, because I don’t think they can depend on the Lions to continue turning the ball over and missing field goal attempts.

Beth from Anchorage, AK

How do you feel about the Packers defense this year?

I’m disappointed. I firmly believed this defense would be playing at a high level late in the season. If you can’t deny yards, then you better take the ball away. The Packers have done that, but not much else.

Andrew from Des Moines, IA

Do you like what you have seen so far?

I like the takeaways, but I’m not going to delude myself into believing the Packers can play this way and win. The Lions are moving the ball freely and the Packers are struggling to move the ball at all. That’s a bad combination. The big concern I have now is that the second half could become a sack fest by the Lions, if the Packers have to throw on every down.


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310 Responses to “Ask Vic Halftime: Takeaways not enough to beat Lions”

  1. By Deesh on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    McCarthy is overrated. Without a star QB he is a below average coach.

  2. By Robert on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    hola

  3. By BobK on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Half time adjustments?!? Gut check time?!? No…only a Lions meltdown like their last couple of games for a chance at a Pack win. 30 more minutes to avoid rest of the season spoiler role and get ready for next season.

  4. By fishguy1812 on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    This is a BAD football team.

  5. By aplinal on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Kudos Vic, your replies sound like a man who has had to admit that, like me (to be honest) we called it wrong. This team looks as though it’s given up. I an having a deja vu moment that I have woken up in the 1980s. Not a pretty sight for Packer fans today ;(

  6. By Tom on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Do they give Tolzein a shot if Flynn continues to struggle?

  7. By Robert on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Hola.

  8. By Jeff on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Wonder what Brian Urlacher is doing these days?

  9. By Robert on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Give Vinny Testaverde a shot

  10. By Kevin K on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Tolzein time in the second half? Seems we need a spark…

  11. By Imani on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    So Deesha, what are your football qualifications again? Yeah, didn’t think so.

  12. By Nelstone on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    You can’t stop the run with 2 defensive lineman 4 linebackers that can’t tackle and 5 d backs that are soft. It would be nice to make some halftime adjustments but you know Dom isn’t smart enough to do that.

  13. By Rod on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Vic, Rodgers can’t help a team that has backslidden into ineptness in every facet of the game. I would hold him out as long as possible to insure a full recovery.

  14. By Gene Ulrich on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    It’s simple for the defense, hit someone hard, even if it’s wrong. Lions are attacking your manhood, act like a man, you’re getting paid to do this.

  15. By Packrfan4 on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    I don’t the Packers would be winning this game even with Rodgers playing. Their offensive and defensive lines are both being thoroughly dominated. And I don’t throw around the word “dominated” loosely. I saw a few plays where Bakhtiari was either pushed all the way back into Flynn or, worse, simply put on his butt.

  16. By Eric on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Yeah.. Matt Flynn will save us.. uh huh.. Guy looks like a deer in the headlights. Guys are wide open, but he doesn’t see them. Give Tolzien a shot; nothing to lose but this game, which you’re doing anyway.

  17. By Richard on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Forget the defense! Who’s calling offensive plays. Lacy between the tackles, Flynn standing like a statue in the pocket. Nothing to the outside like a pitch-out, quarterback rollout, sweep or reverse. We’re not forcing the Lions to defend the width of the field so it’s easy to just bunch everything up in the middle. Where’s the creativity? Someone on the coaching staff is asleep at the wheel and I’m betting heads will roll after this season. Injuries are one thing, continuing to do what isn’t working to a point of absurd predictability is just stupid.

  18. By richard on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    The first 6 draft picks need to be defense unless we can draft a great offensive lineman. 2 years down the road we could be ready for another try.

  19. By Michael on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Here are some predictions for you Vic. Packers loose today. Packers miss the playoffs with a losing season of 7-9. Capers is replaced in the off season. Packers go 8-8 as they rebuild in 2014. Rodgers is visibly upset with the Packers organization at the end of next season. So when do you retire?

  20. By Ryan on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    I have defended Dom Capers for the past two years, but it’s time for a change. I know there are a dozen reasons for why the defense stinks other than “scheme” but enough is enough. Every aspect of this defense is inept. They don’t tackle. They don’t cover. They don’t get consistent pressure. They don’t adjust. I’m not saying it’s an overnight fix by any means, but Capers time in Green Bay should come to an end. Eventually, McCarthy’s job might hinge on the defense too, and don’t think he doesn’t realize that.

  21. By Deesh on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    None but I can see a problem when there is one. Been getting stuffed with the run all day and he still runs on 1st and 2nd downs? Under ONE-HUNDRED yards in the first half? He’s overrated and its time for you to open your eyes.

  22. By Eli S on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Drip, drip, drip…it’s like water torture, watching this defense. It’s a tough way to watch your season slip away. Second half is going to be ugly, we won’t be able to run well without EDS and no one seems to be getting open except Quarless.

  23. By Julio on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Hay Vic what about one of the worst coaches on the league ¡ he pánics when he is behaind. Its a shame.

  24. By Rick S. on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Aikman’s in the house. Can he play?

  25. By Billy Boners on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    This team needs to be aborted Vic – The Badgers would score more points against the lions

  26. By Ray on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Matthews and Hawk are the only players worth keeping on defense

  27. By Mike from Chicago on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    MM is proving that he is not capable of running an NFL team without a superstar QB. This is pathetic!

  28. By david on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    McCarthy and capers getting out coached again. Not a surprise

  29. By fzntdra on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    We are a bad football team. This is the worst Green and Gold defense I can ever remember. Put in Tolzien, Flynn stinks. Quarless wide open twice for big gains. Flynn not even going through progressions.

  30. By jonnyb on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Who had a worse half, Capers or Clements?

  31. By BT on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Where are all the ‘Flynn will save us’ people now? That last sack he took, Lacy was uncovered in the flat. He missed Quarless twice when he was uncovered and has been forcing throws with very poor accuracy or into double coverage. MM has to run to try to keep the D honest, but they have no respect for Flynn what-so-ever. I mean, to just turn guys loose and rush 7-8… you can’t do anything against that if you can’t throw.

  32. By Billy Boners on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    we need a qb that can run – the lions are blowing our o line off the map

  33. By Rick S. on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Vic had that first question squirreled away just in case.

  34. By PackfanReno on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Anyone else upset about two words? Jeremy Ross.

  35. By erickharr on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    I think McCarthy has to look at replacing Capers this offseason; there’s just no excuse for what is happening today. “Draft and develop” is a great mantra, but at the end of the day if the system doesn’t work, neither the talent level nor the experience level will make a difference.

  36. By Billy Boners on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Ross is making our special teams look like special needs

  37. By BIG JD on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    This must be why Matt got cut from three other teams

  38. By Billy Boners on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    I have been a fan for 50 years and watched every game – this is near the bottom

  39. By Eric on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Tolzien warming up, according to Fox. Whatever happens, that ball needs to come out; Flynn is squatting on it.

  40. By Chopper on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    The Packers are going to win this game.

  41. By Mike on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    This is sad. Just sad. It was a good past few years. 3 TOs and still losing. No one escapes this… they get to share in the misery pie. Time to buck up and win… or its over.

  42. By Jon on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Why is Mason kicking off all the time now?

  43. By Scott on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    I’m so tired of this. 300+ yards in a single half???? I know Capers isn’t the one getting gashed, but I can’t fire the whole defense, and someone needs to be held accountable.

  44. By Mike from Chicago on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Hey, Bart Star is at the game…

  45. By John on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Is our d-line just plain terrible? Raji 8 million for 1 tackle agame not worth it

  46. By Karl on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Given the Defense has been on the field the entire first half, I have nothing but respect words for that unit. The problem today is Offense and Play Calling. Excuse my bad English writing skills, Packer fellows! Go Pack Go!! We’ll see better times, I’m sure!

  47. By popnson4pack on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    need to get an offensive coordinator with some original play calling. McCarthy doesn’t seem to see the whole picture at game time.

  48. By david on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    McCarthy needs to go. He can’t coach. Been saying this for years now. Yes, he had good record but its obvious he’s not a solid hc

  49. By fzntdra on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Im hoping we get blown out the rest of this game. This offense isn’t getting it done folks. D is even worse. Maybe then heads will roll.

  50. By jim on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Pathetic!!!

  51. By Chad on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    And…three and out. Wow, so bad. Bad offensive line, bad special teams, bad defense…does it get any worse than that?

  52. By Dave on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    “It’s like the 80’s again”

    – over dramatic Packer fans

  53. By Billy Boners on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Flynn is worthless – he has no vision of the field and calls no audibles

  54. By Billy Boners on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    yeah all we can hope for now is to get a really good draft spot and clean house

  55. By BIG JD on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Three and out Flynn holding the ball way to long.

  56. By fzntdra on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Looks like Sittons comments fired up the Lions and not his own team at all

  57. By jim on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    340 Yards for the Lions at the half.WOW

  58. By Chad on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    This is about to get really ugly kids.

  59. By FROMEO on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    FIRST 3 DRAFT PICKS NEED TO REPLACE THOMPSON,MCCARTHY,AND CAPERS!!!!!

  60. By Mike on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    I thought pick plaus were illegal…..

  61. By Mike on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Errr.. plays

  62. By jim on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Woodson might have slowed down but he was our leader of our secondary.

  63. By FROMEO on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    THE FIRST 3 DRAFT PICKS NEED TO REPLACE THOMPSON,MCCARTHY,AND CAPERS!!!!!

  64. By Mark on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Midway through 3rd quarter . .

    NOT (1) 3 and out for the Lions yet.

    Capers looks pretty content in his SkyBox watching reruns of Ground Hog Day

  65. By Chad on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Lions moving the ball at will. Who woulda thought…

  66. By Tim Crain on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    When you think the Packers are going to play bad and they come out and prove you right, it’s time to make some changes.

  67. By AMG on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Not much to say….along this season,this team always suck in some or another department…..

  68. By jim on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Horrible,start waiving the White Flag.

  69. By Nicola Mazzi on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    It´s too easy….
    Green Bay = the new Indianapolis Colts…Have the best QB but…

  70. By StarrStruck on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Practicing Buddhist non-attachment to the outcome of this game. Have only thrown a wrench into two TV sets so far.

  71. By Billy Boners on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    omg we are just leaving their receivers wide open – this team is over and out

  72. By david on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    This is so sad its funny. I really believe we have the worst coaches in the nfl

  73. By RAY on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Rogers doesn’t play defense What a pathetic football team.

  74. By JLP on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Good day to bet on the Lions, one of of my Thanksgiving traditions. Pack = gutlessness personified.

  75. By Harvester on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    I need to stop saying, well at least GB can’t play any worse than this. The team seems to want to make the point that they can actually play worse than the previous week.

  76. By BIG JD on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    To the fine gentleman who has respect for the defense because of their time on the field, if they could get a stop they wouldn’t be out there as long.

  77. By Chad on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    This performance actually does remind me of the ’80s Packers…minus the decent offense they had. How unbelievable is it that Rodgers has somehow masked how awful this team is??? We all seem to have been fooled to think that this was a Super Bowl team.

  78. By Rick S. on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    This team is like a flaming sack of doggy doo-doo left on Packer Nation’s porch.

  79. By Sam albino on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    This defense couldn’t tackle grandma in a phone booth Capers needs to be fired

  80. By Mike on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    at least the kicker can help us get good field position.

  81. By Jesus on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Fire everybody on defense. Seconday mostly Dumb Capers needs to go seriously draft tall secondary enough of these draft corners ansd safeties. Im tired of waiting for the packers to win a second or even advance more in the playoffs. Wiyh rodgers thers has to be at least 3!fire newhouse Barkley, and smith(center)

  82. By david on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    We need a. Defense minded head coach. No more offensive guys. And Ted Thompson is overrated too. GB was 8-6 in 2010 and then got a little lucky

  83. By Canadian Bill on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Another bad game all around.

  84. By john on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    packer fan for 50 years. This defense stinks

  85. By Harvester on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    BID JD, if the offence moved the ball more often, the defence wouldn’t be on the field for over 20 minutes… players get tired too you know.

  86. By FROMEO on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Well, It’s been a horrible year, so i’ll see you all next year! Hopefully, There will be some DRAMATIC COACHING CHANGES AFTER THIS HORRIBLE YEAR! It’s going to be strange watching detroit or chicago in the playoffs, but until GREENBAY realizes that TT, MM, DC, ARE WAY OVER RATED,IT WILL BE THE SAME NEXT YEAR!!!!

  87. By Gary D on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Last four weeks now the Packers defense could not stop an old lady!
    Really tired of hearing the defensive players say every week “we just couldn’t get it done.”
    This game is our whole season, so if not today then when will they play with any sense of urgency?

  88. By F*** Me on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Is forefeiting allowed in an NFL game? Can we forefeit the whole season?

  89. By Rick S. on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    The fat lady is warming up for a song.

  90. By JZ on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Vic, players not plays then we do not have the players to make the plays yet the coaches are responsible to get the players ready to make plays. When you have both problems it is a major issue to fix. The “body” language of this team reflects the coaches and it is time to make coaching changes.

  91. By jim on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    50 year fan here too and I didn,t think it could get worse with Flynn,s fumble?

  92. By Chad on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Let’s guess how many yards this defense will give up. I’m gonna say 750.

  93. By BIG JD on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Still Flynn PERFECT now he gives it right to the Lions

  94. By Rick S. on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Might as well play the remaining game and give backups some reps.

  95. By sandy becker on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Well Flynn fans…is it time to say let Tolzien get some game time?? This game is pathetic- all 3 phases and the only way our special teams will EVER get out to the 40 is if Akers is kicking to us!!

  96. By Nanniz on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Oh my! I really want the Packers to win – but since I am a realist – I can see the writing on the wall. Why do we look so out of it? Can Rodgers being out really mean that the rest of the team can’t play? Come on Pack.

  97. By Chad on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    @F*** Me Looks to me like they’ve already forfeited, to be perfectly honest.

  98. By Claus on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    This all starts at the O-line. Bad job by the line gives bad running game and no protection for Flynn. That equals no offensive protection, which means useless time of possession and no breathing room for the defense..

  99. By sandy becker on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    SAMMIE!!!!

  100. By Julio on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    This is my worst thanksgiving ever thanks to the pig and his girly staff.

    Vic go home!

  101. By Rick S. on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Megatron just got Shields’ full weight on his bum knee on the pick. Shame.

  102. By Harvester on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    I agree with you, Gary. What really upsets me is the players saying over and over again, “we just couldn’t get it done” I don’t care whether it is offensive or defensive players, I’m tired of their excuses. They need to talk less about getting it done, and ACTUALLY execute the plays!!

  103. By Mike on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    At least Shields and Matthews are playing football. They and Hawk stay, the rest can go as far as Im concerned.

  104. By Ihattamikemcarthy on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    boooo this team rots

  105. By Chad on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    @Rick S. She started warming up the moment Rodgers went out against the Bears apparently.

  106. By Ihattamikemcarthy on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    time for mike M and Dom to pack it up

  107. By sandy becker on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    If it wasn’t for the Dodge commercials this game would be a total bust!!

  108. By Rick S. on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Claus is right. That’s where this starts. No push from the O-line, no go, no game. Defense can’t score all the points.

  109. By Thomas on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    This is a disgusting performance! I would’nt even call it a performance! I’m really angry right now!! Without Rodgers we are a BAD team

  110. By Ihattamikemcarthy on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Stafford has time to get served wine and cheese back there

  111. By jim on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    We are making the Lions look good, I didn,t think it was possible!!

  112. By Harvester on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    JZ, get out of your high horse and stop talking about body language… what’s next? their auras didn’t match up in colour so Capers must be fired?

  113. By Mike on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Time to step up, put up or shut up

  114. By Michael Burns on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Nice int by Sam but this defense sucks. We need some better players. Some better coaches would help too. These guys have no heart, no toughness. My dad says this team is SOFT.

  115. By FROMEO on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    43 yards in the 1st half!! Fire the play caller!!

  116. By Chad on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    @Jim The Lions are actually a pretty talented team…and our team isn’t good at all. Take away Rodgers, and the Packers are a cellar-dweller.

  117. By gary on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Time for new D coordinator This is ridiculous. Single coverage on the #1 receiver even I could do better

  118. By sandy becker on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Where is Josh Sitton backing up his mouth? The offensive line needs to play as mad and tough as the Lions D…if it means lower yourself to their level then DO IT!!

  119. By Chad on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Lions are punishing the Packers at this point. There’s blood in the water gentlemen!

  120. By jim on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    What a Dirty Hit.

  121. By sandy becker on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Another 2 players gone so far- Why don’t the 49ers and Seahawks have this many injuries?? Not that I’m wishing them on them…or AM I??!!

  122. By Harvester on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    as long as the defence keeps getting run over, the word SOFT is going to be pegged to them

  123. By david on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    McCarthy and capers are done. McCarthy gets out coached constantly. When GB wins it’s because Rodgers never the coaches. When they lose it’s mainly the coaches

  124. By jim on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Chad your right we look like the worst team in football without Rogers.Detroit does have some talent but they are not a very good Team.

  125. By Chad on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    61 total yards through two and a half Quarters. Wow.

  126. By Chad on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    @Jim Well, if that’s the case…we’re being dominated by an entirely average team. Because, make no mistake about it, we’re being dominated completely.

  127. By Thomas on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Let Tolzien play out the rest of season, draft defence of proper o-lineman and pkease oh please play with some heart

  128. By Anne on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    What happened to all of the Flynn lovers?

  129. By sandy becker on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Just put TOLZIEN IN THE GAME…not right now of course…or DOES he play defense?? Couldn’t hurt.

  130. By david on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    If Ted Thompson is still here next year, can someone else draft? He can’t pick 2 hits in a row in first round

  131. By Nanniz on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Do – do – do – do – do – do – do – do – GO PACK GO!

  132. By Zack on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Very disappointing. How can Rogers save the defense when you have none. Terrible in all facets today

  133. By jim on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Well Flynn had 1 good game against the Lions 4 years ago.

  134. By Chad on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Hey Anne…the Packers are a bad team and it’s about more than Matt Flynn, I promise you. But go ahead and explain how you “told everyone so” so you feel good about yourself.

  135. By sandy becker on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    NOW…they start to show some FIRE!!

  136. By Charlie on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    New coaching staff is needed in the offseason

  137. By jim on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    @Chad ask a Lions fan about the them.We are getting dominated by an Avg team IMO.

  138. By sandy becker on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    It’s only 95 yards- we’ve already gone 60 some!!

  139. By Chad on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    @Sandy Becker Sadly, I really don’t think it will amount to anything. If Detroit would/could get out of their own way, they’d be up by four touchdowns right now.

  140. By RAY on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Where is the fundamental tackling instead of trying to pretend of tackling someone? Don’t want to get hurt? Sick.

  141. By Rick S. on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    All the pronouncements about how bad the team is and how they should fire everyone are hollow. The team has its holes but it’s more about a season that is snowballing away from a team for a variety of reasons. I do think Capers must go, though.

  142. By Chad on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Lol, this team can’t get anything right! Time to break out the bags ladies and gentlemen!

  143. By Terry on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    This is so pathetic, I may become an Arizona Cardinals fan. At least they had the stones to replace the Coaching staff when it was obvious that they were clueless.

  144. By sandy becker on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Hey- only 2 TDs and 2 Two-point conversions…NO Problem. Go Team Go?????

  145. By Mike on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Plenty of blame to go around. Though, why is it that so many people seem to be excusing the players? This offense can’t move the ball without Rodgers. So, when Rodgers in, is it bad play calling?

    You have no answer, because they don’t have Rodgers under center. Though, when he isn’t and those plays don’t work, suddenly the Coach needs to be fired.

    Get real.

    The coaches have their part in preparation. There is something wrong there, I would agree. But these players don’t get off Scott free.

    That drive? Fair Catch on the 5 yard line. Was that the Coach or the Player??? I don’t know, but it was stupid. I blame the player for using poor judgement.

  146. By jim on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    It is getting worse,Jeez that,s enough for me!!

  147. By Vern on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    1:40 left in the 3rd how. How can you not have Clay and Perry in on 3rd down….

  148. By Mike on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Was that Joe Buck saying “I don’t know if it would be much different” with Rodgers in?

    Dude, are you stupid?

  149. By Rick S. on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Aikman slipped Buck a C-note to say that.

  150. By BIG JD on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Tolzien please

  151. By Montanapackfan on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Hey moderator…how can a post be a duplicate if it was not posted? I said nothing in that post that could not be published. I think your unfairness is only exceeded by your ignorance.

    Roll on green roll on

  152. By sandy becker on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Rodgers audibles and calls his own plays I believe- Porky just carries his laminated cards around looking flustered.

  153. By Rick S. on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Is it five o’clock somewhere yet?

  154. By Vern on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Defense is just tired or really out of it. Make a frickin stand on defense or start looking for players who wanna play. The offensive line is just getting man handled like high school kids. WILL SOMEONE PLEASE MAN UP!!!!!!

  155. By Mike on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Who cares Montana…. does it really matter? You’re yelling at an automated script.

    Don’t you feel stupid?

  156. By Chad on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    @Rick S. While I will agree that the fans can get a bit wound up, this team isn’t a good team. I’ve been watching football a long time, and this is a woeful, woeful effort. And I do not believe the Packers are a good team. They’re proving it and have been proving it since Rodgers went down. Looking at 0-3-1 since his injury, and the teams they’ve lost to aren’t exactly the premier teams in the league. We all knew they’d take a hit minus Rodgers, but can you honestly say that you thought they’d collapse THIS completely? Every phase of the game man, every phase. Not gonna lie, I feel like a complete fool for ever believing that this team was even remotely near being a Super Bowl contender.

  157. By richard on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    PLEASE…Get rid of McCarthy, Dum, TT and vic.

    We go nowhere with these idiots in control!

  158. By Matt on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Glad I ate early-this is sickening to watch.

  159. By Vern on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    REALLY UP ABOUT NOW!!!!

  160. By Rick S. on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Somebody take this game out back and put a slug in it.

  161. By sandy becker on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    perhaps the worst Packer game in 2 decades- I still love these guys, but I don’t LIKE ‘em much as of late.

  162. By Mike on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    See, that is the problem. They had pressure on Stafford. Yet, he gets it out and the catch is easily made. This secondary is swiss cheese.

    Coaches there?

    Not sure folks… Looks like bad players there.

    Did Capers almost allow that TD?

    Seems to me these players need to be fired or threatened.

  163. By NO1YearWonders4GB on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Zero game plan. The season is over. Put Rodgers on IR

  164. By Rick S. on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Chad, I see terrible D-backs and and a spotty O-line. That’s where the troubles start. And there is no fixing it but to have better players, and that isn’t this year.

  165. By Chad on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    487-57 total yards with a quarter left to play. Wow.

  166. By NO1YearWonders4GB on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Newhouse should be ashamed to cash his game check

  167. By BIG JD on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Not much to like here!

  168. By Mike on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Packers have had the ball for less than half of the time. Defense has been on the field for over 30 minutes…

    Its over without Rodgers. GB needs help to get into the playoffs now. Their morale has hit rock bottom.

    I don’t care what happens now. Its over. 33 – 10. I don’t care who is at fault, that is pathetic.

  169. By Rick S. on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    This game could be 50-0.

  170. By Jeff on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    As a life time Packer fan this is the worst collective effort I have ever seen. Sad to see this team quit like this.

  171. By RAY on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Just turned the game off.I’ve seen enough. Glad I didn’t eat before the game (if you want t call it that).

  172. By Steve on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Well, at least there will be no more wasted Sundays watching this mess for the rest of the season. I can’t understand how this D can be this bad; oh yeah, Capers in charge! Even with a healthy ARod this team would not win.

  173. By Ihattamikemcarthy on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    well now it is clear that we have to clean house and start over. this team is the worst I have ever seen..

  174. By Zack on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    what a terrible football team and one man doesn’t make a winning team. They have no defensive line or an offensive line. They have gone from best in defense to worst and they lost their quarterback. How does losing your quarterback make that happen?

  175. By Phil Gessert on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Todays game is so hard to watch. The pack looks like a high school team. Unprepared by the coach the team has nothing. If not for Detroit mistakes it would be a slaughter. Worst GB team I have ever seen and I am a die hard fan since 1956. FIRE McCarthy or expect last place in the division.

  176. By Ihattamikemcarthy on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    my cat just took a sheet on my packer banner

  177. By mark on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    ALL THE PACKERS’ SALARIES SHOULD BE DONATED TO THE POOR.

    THEY HAVE NO HEART !!!!!!!!!

  178. By Mike on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Plenty of blame to go around Steve. Stop excusing these nancies. They don’t deserve it. They’re coddled enough.

  179. By sandy becker on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    MIKE- I TOTALLY AGREE!! Although I’m not real fond of the coaches since A-rodg went down…but with the exception of Shields, Hawk, Matthews, Lacy, Jordy, James Jones and maybe Jolly- the rest of these guys are Hoooooooorible!! Rebuilding year in 2014?

  180. By Thomas on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Cant wait to see how Vic tries to explain this….. Worst ‘performance’ of any team ive ever seen in my years watching the NFL

  181. By Frank on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    I think I saw Randy Wright warming up

  182. By Ihattamikemcarthy on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    so let’s talk the facts here now – who can we get rid of this year – what bums are up for new contracts? we need to clean out 2/3 of the team

  183. By Mike on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    It was a nice run. I hate to say it, but Rodgers’ injury is the best thing to happen to the team. It has exposed the defense for what it really is. Terrible.

    This is going to be a tough off season for all of them. I won’t pretend to know what the problem really is. I just hope they get it done this year. I think they spent too much time worrying about the read option.

  184. By Jimmy on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    It is crystal clear now that we lost the one guy that we could not cover up for his loss. This team has been decimated by injuries and now has 2 problems; we are bad on offense and defense.
    The thing to me that is most glaring that even more than losing Rodgers is the fact that he masked so many deficencies we have on defense just by putting up the huge number of points that he does game in and game out.
    We now look like the Packers of the 70’s and 80’s
    If a team ever needs support from its fans it’s now folks.

  185. By Richard on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    3 points by the offense. How can you blame this on the defense? They scored more points than the offense. Perhaps we should just keep the defense on the field for 60 minutes. It seems to be MM strategy. Run three predictable plays and get the defense back out there. I nominate MM for least creative coach in the history of the NFL.

  186. By Claus on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    The team is just imploding. Several times today have the gunners on special team missed a returner not moving, allowing a lot of yards and good field position for the Lions.

  187. By Lumpy on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    These guys should be ashamed of themselves, trade Rodgers to a good team so we don’t see a repeat of what happened to Brett. Enjoy your Thanksgiving in your posh pads stuffing your faces overpaid porks, by the way what’s on that 50 page flip chart Lumpy carries around cartoons.

  188. By RAY on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    If the defense was on the field for 60 minutes the Lion may well be in triple digits.

  189. By Rick S. on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Look on the bright side. The Packers would be drafting #19 overall coming into week #13. They’ll move up a few spots with this one. Go draft!

  190. By david on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    9 years with Ted at the helm now. I think the hot streak end of 2010 hid some serious flaws of his system beliefs

  191. By Chad on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    @Richard This ugly performance belongs to the entire team. Offense, defense, and special teams. Completely awful in all phases of the game.

  192. By sandy becker on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    This Tampa Bay in the 80s!! Can’t believe I Welcomed back some of these guys earlier today. More like- “Welcome Back 1980s Packers”

  193. By Mike on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    @Jimmy – Flynn is having a terrible game. He is throwing off target, and he is not able to get it done, so they load up on Lacy.

    Why is it not obvious to you that without Rodgers they aren’t doing well. They don’t have a solid backup…

    I spoke too soon on Flynn. He’s showing us why he got cut by so many different teams this year.

  194. By Dom C. on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    It’s not my fault A Rod is hurt

  195. By john on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    I’ve been saying it all year, going back to last season, capers needs to get fired and thrown out of green bay, MM is proving that he can’t coach without a quality QB. Brad jones is horrible, the guy is getting beat all day, md jennings and morgan burnette cant make a decent tackle to save their life.

  196. By Chad on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    503-56 total yards. Wow. Has anyone seen domination so complete in a game recently?

  197. By Ihattamikemcarthy on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    I am shopping tomorrow on black Friday – what type of skirts do the packers wear? does anyone know?

  198. By sandy becker on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Rodgers or no Rodgers…I have conceded this season and division to the “World Killers Lions” to almost quote Buck and Aikman! Thanks GOD for Packers Radio!

  199. By Jimmy on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    It is now crystal clear to me that we lost the one position that we could not hide. This team has been decimated by injuries and now has two problems; we have no offense and can stop no one on defense.
    The scary part is I am now realizing that more than just the loss of Rodgers contributed to this teams slide into oblivion. His presence on the field masked all the huge flaws we have on defense. By him putting up so many points every game we thought our defense was okay. They aren’t. We now look like the Packers of the 70’s and 80’s.
    If ever a team needed fan support it would be now. But then, that’s never been a problem for Packer-Backers.

  200. By Randyz on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    I agree they never do anything except an occasional screen to the outside. McCarthey’s playbook is up the middle or no run at all. The defense looks like it is playing prevent defense (which prevents nothing) all the time letting them get 8-20 yards at will. BAD BAD coaching. Cruddy defensive strategy. Take out Lacy, Matthews, and Rodgers and this team could not compete in HS football.

  201. By scott on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Capers needs to find a High school team to get schooled in defense, as Dandy Don sang, “Turn out the lights, the party’s over” with or with out out rogers, stick a fork in this defense ,team, there done

  202. By Kyle on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Why does AJ Hawk always lose his helmet? That’s 3 times this game

  203. By Mike on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    I’m having a good laugh, at least. LOL

    This team needs Rodgers back, NOW. :p

    At least then we can get to the playoffs to bleed yards and lose. :)

  204. By Lumpy on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    They quit, the entire team is finished, and the tide of winning has changed.

  205. By Zack on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    50 yards of offense and given up 500 yards on defense. When will they start to play the game. They never showed up!

  206. By Terry on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    What do you mean “least creative?” How about those 3 innovative plays when the Pack had first & goal at the end of regulation play last game?

  207. By F*** Me on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Someone would have a hard time convincing me there was a worse team in the NFL then the Green bay packers

  208. By Frank on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Gutless cowards!

  209. By Mike on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Terry, the game is over, they just want to go home. “Innovative” (over used word) plays will not win the game for them.

    They’re cooked.

  210. By gman on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    The problem is greater than missing Rodgers. This game is really hard to watch. This is the ugliest game I can ever remember since before the Favre era. I would have to say that if there isn’t some serious revamping of the defense, this time is 8-8 at best. This season is over, and that’s fine. Pack needs to address these issues ASAP to at least make some sort of progress.

    By the way, Mr. Thompson: It’s not illegal to sign a proven free agent! You will need some more help than “draft and develop” next year, could’ve used it this year.

  211. By Ihattamikemcarthy on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    the worst team in the nfl – would have a hard time beating the best college teams as well

  212. By Chad on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Sweet tackle by Brad Jones! Oh wait, it’s 33-10…

  213. By Chad on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    @Zack They showed up, they just aren’t good. On a side note…about to be 40-10 I think.

  214. By Nanniz on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    I just told my brother-in-law (who is wearing his Lions hat) that we are losing on purpose so that when we win out the rest of the season and the Lions lose two games – we will win the NFC North championship!

  215. By Frank on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Rodgers fell into Thompsons lap….Ron Wolf traded for Favre…he knew talent…Thompson compiles picks and gets lucky every now and then!

  216. By Mike on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    This is actually fun to watch when you start focusing on how bad these players are today.

    They were playing so well early in the year, then Rodgers went out and they started playing poorly.

    WTF happened? Their endurance happened…. They can’t endure a 40+ minute game ALL on defense. They are virtually playing the whole game on the field. They’re winded, and they have no gas left in the tank. The offense can’t move without The Man under center.

    We were too optimistic to expect 2 – 2 over 4 games without Rodgers. Damn you schedule maker for putting the GB game on Thanksgiving…. :(

  217. By Randyz on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    This is SO sad 33-10 5 mins left – YOU KNOW THEY WILL RUN because they are running the clock and they can’t stop them for less than 12 yards!!!!!

  218. By Mike on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    GB getting blown out… I haven’t seen this in years.

  219. By Ihattamikemcarthy on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Rodgers will and should be shelved the remainder of the year…

  220. By Mike on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    I wonder how many bandwagon fans will leave after this year?

  221. By Frank on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Why would Rodgers want to play with this O line…the dirtbags are dominating!

  222. By sandy becker on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    “I was in the House when the House burned down- I met the man with the thorny crown- I helped him carry his cross thru town- I was in the House when the HOOUUUUUUSE BURNED DOWN” Warren Zevon

  223. By Terry on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Mike. I was being sarcastic. Two inside runs and a poorly thrown fade. I don’t think that I have ever seen a more confused group. Some honest self- evaluation is required by everyone in this organization

  224. By Bob on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Even with the man under center this team defense is so poor he doesn’t have enough weapons to out score anybody. Its time to face the fact that we will have to wait until next year…..see ya then fans

  225. By Alice on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Stick a fork in it, our season is done.

  226. By david on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Lol. Tampa bay just beat these guys 4 days ago same building

  227. By Frank on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Warren Buffett….when the tide goes out…you see who is not wearing pants!

  228. By Mike on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    I disagree Band Wagon Fan…. Rodgers is getting paid a ton of money. If he’s healthy, he’s playing.

    They can at least get some help and sneak into the playoffs… as unlikely as that is. He’s getting paid a ton of money. He’s playing.

  229. By Ihattamikemcarthy on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    that packer waiting list just went way down.. we have some very tough years ahead unless we pull a red sox scale trade

  230. By Scott on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    HEY VIC

    Think we have time to come back? Only down 40-10

  231. By Jim on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Not sure how Rodgers would even be doing with this O-line. Newhouse needs to GO. Suh ran through him on that safety like he was invisible. Unacceptable

  232. By Scott on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Defense still not a problem Vic? We only have given up 600 yards today. YOU IDIOT

  233. By Ihattamikemcarthy on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Rodgers is too busy playing with his barbies and getting soft to worry about a miracle comeback this season

  234. By Randyz on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    I am SO sick of hearing the defense is tired…. What the offense plays in wheel chairs so they don’t have to run??? They may as well, the Lions would still win.

  235. By Ihattamikemcarthy on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Vic and all these old school fools need to go

  236. By Zack on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    I agree, let Rogers heal the rest of the year and rebuild and try again next year cause this team will only get him hurt again

  237. By Ihattamikemcarthy on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Let the Badgers play the rest of the season

  238. By Mike on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Actually Scott, Vic has said “I’m disappointed. I firmly believed this defense would be playing at a high level late in the season. If you can’t deny yards, then you better take the ball away. The Packers have done that, but not much else.”

    Are you reading? Obviously not…

  239. By Claus on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Absolutely horrendous effort by all three units, on every single down. I have never seen such a lackluster effort. Enjoy the flight home!

  240. By Frank on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    COWARDS!

  241. By Frank on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Make them walk home!

  242. By sandy becker on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    I hate to say it but I actually feel bad for our defensive players playing 58 of 60 minutes.

  243. By Thomas on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Do you think McCarthy worried that this would happen and did’nt put Tolzien in so that he would’nt dishearten him?? Ii think Tolzien has a bright future and that needs to be developed for the rest of the year and then all the ‘football players’ on defence need to be traded or released

  244. By Danny on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    I wonder how Vic is going to sugarcoat this loss this week.

  245. By Frank on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    ……and the dirtbags win!

  246. By Ihattamikemcarthy on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    these announcers still think the pack has a chance this year ahahhahahahahahhahahahahahha it is so over

  247. By Ihattamikemcarthy on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Vic is in his closet

  248. By sandy becker on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Can this team beat the Falcons? HEY quit throwing beer cans, turkey and Yams at me!!!

  249. By sandy becker on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Flynn’s a Freakin’ DORK!!

  250. By Ihattamikemcarthy on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Flynn is a wanna b nfl player – his career is over and out as is our season

  251. By david on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    McCarthy all proud on that 56 yard play. His reward is another donut at dinner

  252. By Claus on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Hahaha – in ONE play late in fourth quarter, they actually double our total yards. The next they fumble on a snap. Great illustration of this game..

  253. By Ihattamikemcarthy on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    I am going into my closet and hybernating for a few years until this franchise reemerges

  254. By Ihattamikemcarthy on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    call the front office and demand a cleaning of the house

  255. By david on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Been calling for mcdonuts and capers head since 5-5 start in 2010. Guess I was off a few years

  256. By sandy becker on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Was this game a Comedy or a Tragedy?

  257. By Zack on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    I have been a Packer fan my whole life and this is the worst output I have ever seen. They have absolutely nothing on O or D. What a horrible showing of a proud team.

  258. By Ihattamikemcarthy on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    we will not reemerge as a force for at least 3 to 4 years

  259. By Ihattamikemcarthy on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    next year when we ride bikes with the team bring your tomatoes

  260. By Ihattamikemcarthy on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    thank god the badgers were good this year

  261. By Jeff on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    This team is a f**ing disgrace!

  262. By sandy becker on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    ZACK- I couldn’t agree more- pretty disgaceful for such and honored tradition team- Still gonna Cheer my Butt off next week tho!!

  263. By Wes on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Time To Revamp The Defense… A Lot Of Hype, No Production. Capers Is A Joke, The 3-4 Is A Joke.There Isn’t A Team In The League, Besides Green Bay, That Doesn’t Make At Least One Significant offseason Acquisition. Draft And Develop Is Fine As Long As The Player Is Guaranteed To Develop. Picking All Of The Unsigned Free Agents Saves a Lot Of Money, But It Costs A Lot Of WinS. Time To Rethink The Strategy. When You Can’t Win A Game Because One Player Goes Down, That Means YouR Team Is Marginal At Best.

  264. By Ihattamikemcarthy on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    we are so done people – so done – Rodgers will go off and make another commercial and get softer

  265. By Lumpy on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    I think my alma mater Seminoles would blow out these underachievers.

  266. By Francis on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    See, there is one silver lining: we are definitely showing our committment to move up in the draft….

  267. By Sarge on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    I’m thankful that Vic has finally stopped channeling Baghdad Bob by telling us all is well.

  268. By Ihattamikemcarthy on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Vic – just another senile packer backer

  269. By barry on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    I didn’t think it could get any worse than the Philly game, man was I wrong.

  270. By Matt on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Is it just me, or do the Packers need to have an Offensive Coordinator up in the booth calling the plays rather than the head coach on the side lines? It just seems the right plays just can’t get called, unless Rodgers audibles…

  271. By david on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Mcchunky is a terrible head coach. Rodgers masked stuff during a 21-1 run late 2010/2011. But when push come to shove he gets out coached

  272. By Wes on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    I’m Sure Mccarthy Will Say The Same Thing During His Post Game Press Conference… “I Should Have Coached Better”. No Sh#t.

  273. By david on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    If GB is arguably the most storied franchise in NFL, how come we never get a parcells or gruden or harbaugh?

  274. By Achtung on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    7 sacks and a safety…Not even Aaron Rodgers can help at this point. Defense cannot get much worse.

  275. By Frank on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Rodgers wins 45-40

  276. By sandy becker on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Come on Folks!! It’s Thanksgiving…Let’s stop being so mean to eachother- Vic and some of the old-timers have the wisdom of being there when times were tough before- Why not be THANKFUL for having the “Best” Fans in the league/ 2 Decades of being spoiled with some pretty stellar years (excluding the Ray Rhodes year)/ Our Families and Friends/ the fact that Rodgers didn’t have a Career ending injury…and so much more- Come on Fans!

  277. By David on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    This stuff is tough to watch. Some of us saw this coming, but man, this is bad.

  278. By Wes on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Defense Is Awful.3-4 Scheme Is Awful. Top Defenses In The League Don’t Run 3-4.

  279. By Frank on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    My Turkey just vomited!

  280. By Wes on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    9-6-1 Can’t Win The Division, and That’s If They Win Out. See Ya Next Year Packer Nation.

  281. By John on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Only thing to look forward to is the draft. Maybe we can get some secondary people who don’t keep running into each other. WHO is coaching this defense should be called out!!!!!

  282. By sandy becker on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    FRANK- You get a bunch of Stuffing crammed in you…and NOT throwup!!

  283. By Jim on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    The totality of this game was summed up when the Packer D left Johnson wide open and then made a couple of pathetic attempts to tackle him. It’s one thing to be beat by a better team. But as a d-coordinator for 18 years, this Packer team quit today. This. Was. Pathetic.

  284. By sandy becker on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    I understand the frustration- But seriously…aside from firing the coaches- WHAT can fix this NOW??!! Execution?? Yes- Shoot them all.

  285. By Curt on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    B R U T A L
    Its time for a complete change starting at the top with T.T. and M.M.

  286. By jim h. on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Thompson has drafted some great players just think about it. He can stay.
    Mike McCarthy is way too predictable and gets out coached a lot. He can go.
    Dom Capers is obvious. He can go.
    A.J. Hawk can go.
    That is all I want for Christmas.
    Tired of wasting Rodgers Talent.
    We would have a lot less injuries if the team was coached properly, because we would blow out more teams with Rodgers incredible ability and not be forced to play our starters late into games.
    Problems solved.

  287. By Jeff on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    This season is over. Sit AR and clean house @ the end of the year , starting with DC and the 3-4 defense.

  288. By LoveMy Pack on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Tough to swallow………only one way to go after this episode.

  289. By Rich on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Worst part for me will be listening to Lion fans talk smack since I live near Detroit. Let’s face it this Packer team sucks but whichever team come out of the Norris will not go far in the playoffs
    Draft high and get an easy schedule the receipt for a come back season!!

  290. By fly0549 on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Josh Sitton deserves a lions game ball!!

  291. By qiu helen on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    McCarthy needs to go !

    He should have at least switched to Tolzien , what game was he watching !

  292. By qiu helen on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Just like the Holmgren era , Brett Favre , Reggie White and only one Super Bowl.

    Don’t waste Rodgers talent , McCarthy must go
    He does not know how to adjust once the game starts.

  293. By Stupid Fan on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    I cannot believe how supid fans are these days. This isn’t Madden Football. There isn’t any magical plays a coach can call that will work over an over like a stupid video game. These are humans out their playing a game with human talents and human psychology involved. We have superbowl winning coaches with a superbowl winning “scheme”. Get a freeking clue. If your best players are in and out due to injuries all season long your team is going to struggle. These are all professional teams in the NFL and the difference between the top and the bottom is so subtle that having a star quarterback can be the difference between winning a superbowl and being the worst team in the NFL. Take Indianapolis 2 years ago when Manning was out for the year. Playoffs to 1st pick in the NFL draft to playoffs again over a 3 year span. Quit showing your ignorance.

  294. By John on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Yes, this team can get worse. Terrible play on both sides of the ball. Defense and offense,3 downs and out defense is swiss cheese. Oh yes this team can get worse.

  295. By Thomas on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    @qui helen He was protecting Tolzien, knowing well that by keeping Flynn in, he would force flynn to prove the doubters wrong (him probably being one of the doubters also)! He failed miserably! Play Tolzien the rest of the year, he has lots of potential! Regardless if Rodgers is a hero when he comes back, this team needs change, wherever that my begin, hopefully it will be with the defense! That game revealed what we all know deep down for a while now, that this team is below average without Rodgers! Offense is well above average with everyone healthy but defense has ultimately been holding us back for a while now!

  296. By Inupiac on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Ditch the 3-4 and shift Matthews to the middle, get rid of Hawk, 1st pick in draft = best available Wide Receiver and clean house on defensive staff

  297. By Joe on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    It’s just not the defense or offensive its the coaching Einstein definition of insanity was doing the same thing over & over again & expecting different results

  298. By Bob on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome is the definition of insanity

  299. By Bob on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Sorry Joe

  300. By fourononeoff on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    There’s still a chance,it starts next week against the Falcons. Run the table and like Vic said the Packers can win the division. Though one thing that has been bothering me is why VY was released after spending the pre season here? I would be willing to bet the Packers would’ve been a better team this last month.

  301. By David Sage on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    McCarthy says this loss is an embaressment. He’s the embaressment. Him and Capers. The whole management should also have red faces. When you’re playing at this level, you should have guys that can fill in when the starters are injured. These reserves should be just as good as the starters. Instead we have slugs filling in. What an embaressment to the fans because of poor coaching and management. Maybe it’s time to start looking for MCCarthy’s replacement. Somewhere Vince Lombardi and all of those Packers in the sky are crying.

  302. By chris phillips on Nov 28, 2013 | Reply

    Everyone needs to stay calm. Ted Thompson is not the problem, he has kept us from overspending on free agents, taken care of our cap (should have 9 million starting off and that doesn’t count Raji and Hawk possibly being gone) and built up a nice core of young players. Mike Daniels is a beast, Casey Hayward (injured) is great, and we have great receivers. I agree that Capers can go. The main player that has to go is AJ Hawk he is one of the worst rated linebackers in the league via pro football focus. He lacks speed, playmaking ability, and cant get off blocks to save his life. He has a few sacks, but none of them were generated with his pressure, the qb was either flushed to him or he was completely unblocked.

  303. By debbie on Nov 29, 2013 | Reply

    I am just hoping that when Rodgers returns it will do the trick and get us back on the win column. Otherwise, if we don’t happen to make the playoffs, be in position to get good draft slots. Either way, I still love my packers. I also feel sad because this is not the packers I am used to seeing. But I can still hope that they will right the errors (or most of them) when our qb comes back. Go Pack Go!

  304. By debbie on Nov 29, 2013 | Reply

    I am just hoping that when Rodgers returns it will do the trick and get us back on the win column. Otherwise, if we don’t happen to make the playoffs, be in position to get good draft slots. Either way, I still love my packers. I also feel sad because this is not the packers I am used to seeing. But I can still hope that they will right the errors (or most of them) when our qb comes back. Go Pack Go!

  305. By Gary on Nov 29, 2013 | Reply

    I believe you’ve mentioned before that these professional players don’t get as emotionally vested in a game as say college or high school player…..That they are paid to do a job and that is how they approach this game. I know they have contracts and will get paid anyway (even after an obviously sub-par performance by most)…..BUT, could the fans make a difference and shame these players into donating this week’s paychecks to the needy or other worthwhile organizations. They certainly did not earn them as “professionals”.

  306. By bob on Nov 29, 2013 | Reply

    capers d. out dated. talent is there,week after week same thing, CHANGE IS NEEDED

  307. By warren on Nov 29, 2013 | Reply

    GET RID OF ALL DEFENSIVE COACHES>>>>NO ADJUSTMENTS MADE….DO NOT PLAY RODGERS SEASON OVER…

  308. By Jack Toivonen on Nov 29, 2013 | Reply

    Its simple math. When aaron plays we score enough points to win. W/O aaron our defense ca’nt hold opposition from scoring more than we do. End of story.

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