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Aaron Rodgers out; Matt Flynn will start against Steelers

Posted by Vic Ketchman, packers.com editor on December 20, 2013 – 12:56 pm


GREEN BAY–The Packers officially listed Aaron Rodgers as “out” for Sunday’s game against the Pittsburgh Steelers.

“Aaron Rodgers has been declared out for the game. As an organization, we feel we are not ready for him to play. He is not medically cleared,” Packers Coach Mike McCarthy said on Friday. “I thought Aaron Rodgers did everything he could possibly do. He did some really good things in practice. This is where we are.

“Matt Flynn is our starter. He’s ready,” McCarthy said. “We feel we can beat Pittsburgh with our football team. I had hoped Aaron’s situation would progress. We have a very good team coming in here on Sunday,” McCarthy added.

Here’s more from McCarthy’s press conference:

On how Rodgers took the news: “He understands where we are. Everything has been explained, but he obviously wants to play. The kid has played with injuries. He’s a tough guy. He’s done everything he possibly could to try to get back on the field.”

On how Rodgers tried to state his case: “I think Aaron clearly wants to play. He’s a very competitive man. He’s done everything he possibly can from his end of it, but he understands how the organization feels. Everything was laid out on the table, and the organization is not ready for him to play.”

On Randall Cobb: “Looks good. Curious to see how he feels tomorrow. I felt Randall made progress this week. It was good for him to get three days of practice in.”

Cobb is not yet on the active roster. A spot would have to be cleared for him on the 53 if he were to be activated for Sunday’s game. McCarthy did not say whether Cobb would be activated or not.

As for possibly making space on the roster, McCarthy said on Thursday that DE Johnny Jolly’s neck/shoulder injury is “significant,” meaning he would be a candidate for injured reserve. McCarthy also announced on Friday that TE Brandon Bostick’s foot injury will require season-ending surgery.

DE C.J. Wilson returned to practice this week after missing the last three games with an ankle injury. He was limited in practice all week and is listed as questionable for Sunday’s game.

After McCarthy’s press conference, WR Jordy Nelson and G T.J. Lang spoke with reporters and gave their reactions:

“We had a feel for it throughout the week, but we didn’t know for sure,” Nelson said. “I don’t think anyone in this locker room is surprised.

“They’re going to be smart, especially with the type of player he is and what he means to this organization. They’re doing the right thing. We’ll just have to continue to try to go out and play good football, win some more games so we can keep the season alive and give him another week to get healthy and come back.”

Lang added that when Rodgers was taking more scout-team than first-team reps in Wednesday’s practice, the players pretty much figured out where things were headed.

“From that day on, we’re not sitting here playing a guessing game,” Lang said. “We put our trust in Matt, stop focusing on that and move forward.”

The Packers did practice outside in the wind and snow for their team periods on Friday. During practice, the weather resembled what forecasts are calling for on Sunday in Green Bay.

“Everybody has played in snow before,” Lang said. “Today was cold and windy, so it’s difficult, but I don’t think it’s a shock to anybody. For us to go out there today and try to get used to it, that should help us if we get the same conditions on Sunday.”

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275 Responses to “Aaron Rodgers out; Matt Flynn will start against Steelers”

  1. By marty on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Save him for the bears

  2. By Kyle on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    This is getting ridiculous. I feel like I’m dealing with the Brett Favre saga again

  3. By Debbie Downer on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    I just knew it. I told you so. Rodgers’ career is headed to the Promised Land.

  4. By wayne on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    I have to agree with Kyle, I am starting to think MM and TT like causing Drama, pushing 7 weeks now Really!! I think we should be able to see some Xrays to show he cant play.

  5. By Matt on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    It’s really no surprise. I wish the media would quit badgering the coach about Rodgers, Flynn will do fine. I think it’s more critical to get Cobb back. Stupid reporters need to take their heads out of their butts. How many times does Mike have to answer the same lame question about Aaron? Ask him about Cobb’s availablility. “So, what has to happen before Aaron is medically cleared?” So, what you’re saying is that Aaron has not been medically cleared.” So, what goes into the decision?” AAAGGHH! Where did you learn Journalism?

  6. By Kevin on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    I’m tired of it, Rodgers won’t play next week against the Bears either. Mike McCarthy ignored about who makes the final decision because he knows that HE DOES and he is just playing a stupid game with the media. AR does not deserve this, the best quarterback in the league should play when HE FEELS ready. The only way Rodgers plays another down for the 2013-2014 season is the Playoffs, that’s it.

  7. By Denny Miller on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    I don’t understand why they’re not more interested in getting into the playoffs.

  8. By sudsman on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Kyle and Wayne, MM and TT are not causing this “drama.” Trust me, they want Rodgers to play, and Rodgers wants to play…but the doctor will not clear him yet. The doctor is concerned with one thing only: the health of the player. It’s really not that complicated…or dramatic. And to compare it to the Brett Favre saga is incredibly stupid.

  9. By Debbie Downer on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Draft a new quarterback. Johnny Football.

  10. By jim on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Have to say that I’m disappointed. The season is on the line and we dodged a bullet last week. If Rodgers isn’t ready this week, then I doubt he will be ready at all this year. A couple of weeks will not make that big a difference. I think the Packers should just put him on IR. I doubt they will make the playoffs and if they do they are destined to be one and done without Rodgers.

  11. By Ken on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Matt did well in the second half against the Cryboys. The Steelers have a lot of injuries on defense, one of the worst run defenses in the league and Ben has been looking more like Pigpen than Big Ben. Clay and Eddie should be able to carry this game.

  12. By Emwardo on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    What’s the problem with you armchair generals? Do you know more than MM and the medical staff? Well you don’t.

  13. By richard on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Five out of six commenting have no clue. What a shame.

  14. By Matt on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    So, Kevin, what you’re saying is that you don’t agree with the decision that Rodgers is not medically cleared to play? What do you think has to happen before he’s medically cleared to play? So, who makes the final determination to make him medically cleared to play??
    Sorry, just practicing my “reporting” skills.

  15. By JP on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Come. On.

    This saga seems to run deeper than anyone is letting on. Was Rodgers ever going to play? Does the “organization” feel that the team is not strong enough to throw 12 back out there? Is it a money protection thing?

    If the Packers pull it off this weekend, there is going to be quite a bit of fan-resentment about not having Rodgers back to get revenge on the Bears. This is getting exhausting for us. Seems we’re getting jerked around because they want us to stay “tuned.”

    We’re going to watch either way. Just give us a straight answer and lets get behind Flynn all the way.

  16. By Dave on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    What a joke, wonder why a professional organization(publicly owned) cannot say why he can’t play and what he has to do to play .

  17. By John on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    To all the idiots that don’t understand. If he is medically cleared he plays. He isn’t medically cleared so he doesn’t play! It is as simple as that and Debbie … You are a Downer and need to shut up!!

  18. By lynn anklam on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    let’s hold out next year too. He might get a big hit that will shorten his career.

  19. By Patrick Timms on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Let him heal Flynn can handle this game better to heal and be ready for Jan then re break and not have Rodgers for Jan when it will matter but Flynn is a good ball player just need more protection on the O line. Give Flynn time and he will get em there and let Rodgers be 100%

  20. By richard on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Thank you sudsman. You get it.

  21. By Rudy on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    So we know AR is out. Ok, well lets go pack! Lets go beat down those steelers! Stand behind Matt he’s the qb now!

  22. By Mike on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Am I not allowed to post or something?

  23. By EddyLaceEmUp on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Flynn’s gonna get his 3rd straight ‘W’ on Sunday. Be loud, Lambeau Field!
    Keep Calm & Just Flynn, baby!

  24. By whitey on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    sudsman it shows how much you know, the doctor doesnt have the final decision, he just gives his advise it’s up to the coach mainly and the gm can weigh in. They are to scared to play him in case something happens. 2 words SEASON OVER! rodgers cant come back for his first game in chicago and be rusty, or in the playoffs, we’ll loose for sure. now that i know hes not plating a wish we finished worst for high draft picks next year,because thats what this team needs to fix the defense

  25. By Mike on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    I guess I am… LOL Just tried to post something…

    To all the anti-coaches. Quit lining up blame before the game. It sounds like you are making plans for it “just in case.”

  26. By James M. on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Rodgers became a commodity when they resigned him, but Lacy on the other hand is expendable. That is why you see a big taped up mangled foot when he runs. That’s what is sad about Green Bay today. A non-profit, profit making business.

  27. By whitey on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    just flynn is the dumbest f@@king thing ever

  28. By Raymond on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Rodgers should earn the money he is being paid everyday everyone takes a risk I said six weeks ago he is done. after they loose this week MM will say there is no need for him to return. Why all the hype and hope every week MM quit being a politician and tell us the truth. Rodgers is the paid player EARN it.

  29. By David on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    If he is “out”, that is a medical decision and nothing more. I am comfortable with that. You conspiracy theorists should accept it at face value. You are the people causing the drama.
    “Short term pain for long term gain”

  30. By Packman on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Are you kidding me, this is a FRACTURED collar bone, 6 weeks is plenty of healing time! This is not a concussion or a career threatning injury and it is on his non-throwing sholder. Gotta go for it now, even with everyone back & healthy next year, there are no guarantees we will make the playoffs! We control our own destiny now.

  31. By Sean on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    This isn’t some kinda of generated drama by TT or MM. He’s not medically cleared and they / we remain hopeful every week that he will be. Romo had the same injury and missed 8 weeks, it’s not like they are treating him any differently than other NFL quarterbacks. They want him on the field as bad as we do.

  32. By Jamie on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Some of you don’t sound like Packer fans at all! MM and TT would not do anything to jeopardize WINNING. That is the goal every single game. If Rodgers has not been medically cleared, there is nothing anyone can do about it. Band wagon fans can peace out. Have some faith in your team, coaches, mgmt and players! SHEESH!

  33. By James M. on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Let him shovel snow!!! Its those seats that pay his salary! Speaking of which MM, get your but out there too!!

  34. By James M. on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    I keep forgetting, he’s not medically cleared to shovel snow.

  35. By Roger on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    MM mentioned a dozen times about what “the organization” decided. I have a feeling he was not in favor regarding what the final decision was. It’s one of those “I sign your paycheck” and “the boss may not always be right, but he always the boss” type of deals.

  36. By Alex on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    If he is not ready, he is not ready, why to risk a re-injury… He is not medically cleared and the doctors are probably did not give him a green light…
    I think we can beat Steelers with Flynn and hope Aron will be ready for Bears…
    I do not think his career is finished… he have a broken bone for god sake and we can not expect him to recover in a few days…

  37. By Dave on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    I know for some this looks like a horrible situation. However, If the Packers do pull off another win with Matt Flynn, I believe it would provide an exceptional boost for the confidence of the team. Aaron Rogers is not going to play football until his fractured collarbone is completely healed, that may take a few more weeks, or more. Is anybody happy about this?.. Nope. But it is what it is. And as we’ve seen in the last few games, there are other players on the field besides Aaron Rogers. And it looks like only now the team is sarting to believe it. Will I get angry?…yes, will I be frusterated?…yes. Will I believe they have a shot no matter who plays?…yes. Will I always be a Packer fan through thick and thin?… Absolutely!

  38. By Jamie on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Man, you guys are depressing…is anything ever good enough for you? Playoff’s are within reach! And for those others saying that we didn’t win the game last week, the Cowboys gave it to us….explain the 5 tds, and 2 picks! Those picks were amazing, and the players that caught those balls should be recognized. Some of you are the very worst kind of fans…

  39. By David on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Whitey, you need to take an English lesson or fifty before you post any more messages. Also, you might want to try to learn a bit about football before your next post. it’s too easy to pick apart your opinions.

  40. By James M. on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    I seriously gotta laugh at this one. Flacco makes more than Rodgers, and he’s going to play after a sprained MCL last week. Which if rips, he’s not only done for the season but he probably will never play the same way again. Ironic isn’t it, that a tough team should toughen up to win.

  41. By JP on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Yes – to whoever said it – playoffs are in reach!

    This is the time for risk. I am of the camp that this team can win on any given Sunday, and Rodg gives them the best chance to win until February.

    There is more to gain than lose outside of a horribly mangled collar bone, or even more unlikely, a punctured lung. Just give the guy the damn ball.

  42. By James M. on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Jamie, why won’t you let people on here state their opinions? Isn’t this a team blog where everyone has a right to state how they feel without other people calling them the worst fans ever?

  43. By warren on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    There has got to be something else wrong, you simply just cant thumb your nose to the playoffs over a 7 week old LEFT collarbone on a right handed QB. Really, what is the WORST case if he gets hit again and rebreaks it? He is out til next season? LOL! This cant be career threatened, unless you would also consider my sore throat life threatening! Good grief, how about questionable or doubtful at this point, only bring him in if Flynn stinks the place up. Something is not right about the Packers stance, I think something else is wrong with him.

  44. By Debbie Downer on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Brett Favre would pick vicodin pills out of his beer vomit and suck it up and go play.

  45. By Nate on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Whitey, how about quit trolling and go back to your Bears message board. Leave this board for real Packer fans.

  46. By wilber on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Aaron Rodgers seen leaving the building angry. There you go MM and TT, piss-off your franchise quarterback. I wouldn’t blame Rodgers to pull a Carson Palmer, sit out next year and then go play for San Diego like Smokin Joe said a couple weeks ago. Packers loose Rodgers and they will stink the next 15 years.

  47. By Kell on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    In Like Flynn! Matt has definitely had his ups and downs… but that dude has been getting it together. A home game crowd helps a lot too. This isn’t the steel curtain defense of old at all either. I hope Matt upgrades his records set a couple years ago! I still think the best game I have seen him play was actually against the Patriots a few years ago. A lot of people think he is just a “one game wonder”. He has proven he is better than that. Stand behind your team GB!

  48. By James M. on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Were not saying they’re going to lose, were simply complaining because of how we FEEL. Get it?

  49. By Nate on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    James M. See above message.

  50. By sudsman on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Clearly, some people (whitey) have not learned the general Internet rule of thumb that says you should not post anything if your IQ is lower than your BAC.

  51. By Kevin on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    to keep leaving the season up to Flynn is bad… its hard to see the packers season come down to flynn.. its gonna be ugly

  52. By Jack on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    I wonder how Rogers not playing motivates all the other packers that are playing with bumps, bruises and other hurts. I don’t understand what organizational dec. means. How do you motivate the other players that are hurt and playing when Rogers is out because of an “organizational dec.”. Hope we don’t see a non motivated team on the field against pitt. Could be a big let down. Hope not Go Pack…

  53. By James M. on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Nate, I hope to one day be like you and tell others to go troll somewhere else. Do you have a school yet, or are you in the process of an infomercial?

  54. By DAPAKRZ on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    We’re toast….

  55. By Kevin on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    the packers are paying him 150 million or whatever it is not to sit on the bench if he can go he should be out there

  56. By reason1265 on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Why all these people are so freaked out the AR is not playing is beyond me. Do you really want to see this defense play a good team in the playoffs again??

  57. By wilber on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    I like Debbie Downer’s comment. Draft Johnny Football

  58. By Packman on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    JP, you are right on, the playoffs ARE within reach. I remember th 80’s when they were NEVER within reach let alone controling our own destiny. Questionable or doubtful, I can see that but medically not cleared to play, not buying that!

  59. By veetster on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    That’s about enough out of you Debbie Downer. Let’s just enjoy the fact we’re still in the hunt man!

  60. By RamRod on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Mike McLiar! 7 games and 8 weeks of healing….Woodson returned 9 weeks after his 2nd break of the same collarbone and he makes takes with his shoulder….direct impact. This is a non displaced non surgical chip of a non throwing collarbone. These are facts not an opinion!

  61. By Tom on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    All this talk is cheap…let ‘em play with what they got…Just Win baby!

  62. By Robert on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Matt Flynn will do fine replacing Aaron Rodgers. Bunch of fair weather fans and/or trolls commenting on this article. Please go back to being a fan of the cowboys or whoever you were a fan of, fake Packers fans. Real Packers fans know that this team is doing the right thing listening to the doctors.

  63. By Scott J on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    The Packers can beat the Steelers with Flynn at quarterback. People who don’t know the situation can only speculate about why Rodgers was not cleared. All the Packers can do is play with the hand they are dealt and we fans need to support the team on the field. Anything can happen in a football game and on any given Sunday any team can lose. If we make it to the playoffs we can win.
    With that being said the only issue I have with the Packers is how poorly they are handling the situation. They don’t need to drag this out every week. Teams are preparing for the Rodgers and the Packers offense, if they get Flynn then that is a bonus on Sunday.

  64. By reason1265 on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Why all these people are so upset about AR not playing is beyond me. Do you REALLY want to see this defense face a play off caliber team ?

  65. By Tom on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    I can’t believe so many of the comments I am reading from the so called “Packers faithful.” Geez you sound more like reporters for the National Enquier than what really informed Packers fans know (or should know) and appreciate about the Packers organization. The Packers keep injury information close to the vest, not to keep the fans in suspense, but to not be tipping off the other teams. By keeping their opponents guessing during the week, team like the Steelers have to dedicate more of their limited practice and preperation time during the week for
    more than one quarterbacking scenario. This is known as a good thing.
    If you as a fan are a good team player, then you wouldn’t worry about Rodgers news….you would only care about the end results on Sunday.
    Something very special is happening right before our eyes and if you don’t see it coming you won’t appreciate the journey we are on.

    Someone posted that AR should be put on IR. All I have to say is that if Matt Flynn is our guy for the rest of the season, then he’s our guy. If a not completely healed AR suits up for say, The Big One, and Flynn is the starter for reasons obvious to the coaching and medical staff at that time, well then, it could be quite interesting if Matt were to get hurt and # 12 could come off the bench in relief.

    AR will be back in the drivers seat next season. TT, MM and the medical staff all know what’s at stake this year….so do the other 51 guys who wre paid to play and win. Enjoy this magical season.

  66. By veetster on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    GO PACK!!

  67. By kjrahimi on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Flynn for the Win!

    What I don’t get, and yes I understand that he isn’t medically cleared, is how this issue went from an medical one all these weeks to an organizational one today.

    I think the locker room is not affected by the outside world and they will be ready for Sunday, as I’m sure the crowd in Lambeau will be too.

    Playoffs are our in our control; win and we are in.

  68. By RamRod on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    They should kick the S**T out of the steelers….so let’s just do it F**K everything else….someone block Tomlin!

  69. By RamRod on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Can Lacy play QB?

  70. By SouthofReality on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    I’m impressed with deep medical knowledge of people on this board. They all know that Rodgers should be cleared to play, because he WANTS to.

    Just like RGIII and the Redskins.

    How’s that turning out for that franchise?

  71. By RamRod on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply


  72. By B. Favre on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Miss me yet?

  73. By Geordie Nelson on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Brutal. Brutal. Brutal.

  74. By Rodell on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    I would be upset if i didn’t know they would rule him out already. Just Flynn baby.

  75. By don welsh on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    when did the packers get their medical and training staffs off the obamacare website?

  76. By pccy on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    So many of trolls and idiots today. Do you really think they will save Rodgers (a 100 mil. qb) for next christmas? There is a reason Rodgers isn’t going to play this Sunday and I don’t fuc-ken care. I will go with whatever the packers have and do to beat Steelers.

  77. By kjrahimi on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    We could sit around and be pissed off that Rodgers isn’t playing or fired up that we are in it to FlynnIt and get ready for some Packer football on Sunday. Got to keep the boys rolling…let’s go Packer fans!

  78. By Geordie Nelson on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    We’re done. I’m officially alienated. Miracles are rare and I think we can all agree that what happened in Dallas last week was a miracle. Terrible. You only get so many chances in this game, and clearly the Packer organization has pissed it away. Here was a perfect chance to clear Rodgers and put him on the bench for phsycholgical reasons. He’d hype the team up. And get Chicago wondering who’s taking the ball next week. We need this win! Any edge will do. Bunch of pussies.

  79. By James M. on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Lot of extremist fans here as well. Do your walls look like swiss cheese yet. Only one opinion matters?????? A lot of Rodgers fans are here. I’m not one of them myself, just a team fan, but still respect them. My sister was a Favre fan, she wasn’t a fan of Minnesota, but she was still a fan of Favre. So I can see why there are people here who are upset that he’s not playing. They don’t hate the organization, they don’t like what’s happening to their favorite player.

  80. By iseebeautyallaroundbyrobpaine on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    I am not sure I understand why people are being so critical of the packers on this.

    Would we prefer to be like the Redskins and handle it the same way that team death with RGIII – 11? Washington is in total disarray and now clinched last place in the worst division in the NFC.

    You have to look long term here. As much as everyone would love to see Rodgers out there Sunday, its not worth risking serious injury. If Matt plays like he did the second half against the Cowgirls or like he did against the Patriots a few years ago, I do not think the Steelers are going to have much of a chance.

    Like the old saying goes, you have to go to war with the army you have and based on what we saw last sunday, we should feel pretty good about things

    Go Pack Go!

  81. By Kiss my taint on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    That’s what you get for being such loyal fans! False hope week after week! Did Mike McDonalds gain a few?

  82. By Rick on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Some of the comments here are incredible. AR is not cleared to play by medical doctors. Anybody that’s had a cracked or broken collarbone understands how long it takes to heal. If they win, maybe AR can play next week. If they lose, just sit him down for Chicago. Why risk the long term health of any player, especially somebody like AR?

  83. By Geordie Nelson on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    I hate the Packers now. I hate em. I hate em. I hate em.

  84. By Jim on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    @kj: in answer to your why is this an ‘organizational decision’ now, only MM knows for sure but my guess is that it’s MM’s way of trying to be a team player. He was pretty vocal the last couple of days that A-Rod was looking really sharp so I’m guessing he’s pretty bummed/disappointed that he’s not playing but rather than publicly blaming it on the Dr., he tried to soften it a little by using the ubiquitous “organizational” moniker.

  85. By Bob Daniels on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Vic:Can’t you get that SPAM you’re getting redirected to Dear Abby for her to answer? Quite obvious many of these “experts” failed Medical School and/or General Manager/Head Coach entry level screening tests and ended up elsewhere.

  86. By Kevin on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Matt, I’m pretty sure that was sarcasm, but completely sure. The reporters were very annoying today, but the fact that it was an orginizational decision makes it all the worse, because MM gets the final call, and he won’t play Rodgers. I bet that when Rodgers is finally “cleared” he will be busting up the defense showing the staff that they should’ve cleared him a long time ago. I do believe we can win with Flynn, I just think that this media game has gone too far, because it is no longer a medical decision.

  87. By No arm on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Flynn has no arm. Jordy is going to end up getting hurt shagging his ducks out of the air. The Steelers will come in and win this game. Neither team is exciting, but Steelers have the better QB on this day. See you next year.

  88. By Geordie Nelson on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Give me a break Rick. I broke (and displaced four ribs), bruised my kidneys and almost puncture a lung and was playing in less than 6 weeks. This is bullsh*t

  89. By john on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Thank you SouthofReality. There are enough meatball fans out there to feed an army.

  90. By JZ on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    ARod must have the slowest healing bones on the planet, it is just shy of 8 weeks. At this rate he might misss the opening game of 2014!!!

  91. By Kiss my taint on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Why do so many people want a homogenized opinion on this board? Pathetic that people are attacked for their opinion because it is critical of the Packer organization.

  92. By pccy on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Geordie, I guess you will hate Packers more if they let Rodgers plays and re-injured the same bone and out for at least 18 months.

  93. By James M. on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    I agree Kiss.

  94. By B. Favre on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Waaaaa….my collarbone hurts!

  95. By JC on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    This comes from DAVE-
    What a joke, wonder why a professional organization(publicly owned) cannot say why he can’t play and what he has to do to play .

    That’s all we want to know- why he can’t play and what he has to do to play .
    Not this -the medical staff hasn’t cleared him…..

    the word around the NFL is Green Bay is soft on injured players.

  96. By Mike D on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    I think it will be up to the defence to win the game this weedend. Hope they can step it up.

  97. By Kiss my taint on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    ……and they want censorship! Calling people trolls and idiots because they challenge authority?

  98. By Carlos on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    I knew this was going to happen. When are we going to learn the lesson that we fans are lied to because they are really trying to lie to their upcoming opponents.

    I do not believe Aaron will play this season. What really bothers me is that I can already guess that next preseason Aaron will still be held out and MM will say “We are just being smart”.

  99. By James M. on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    I thought Packer fans were supposed to be loyal to the team, not judgemental to each other.

  100. By DAPAKRZ on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Wow…Just checked the line. We’re 2.5 point favorites without Rodgers? Those folks in Vegas must have a serious crack habit….

  101. By Hugh Mungasack on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Win against Pittsburgh and #12 + #18 return for the “SHOWDOWN IN CHITOWN!!!!!

  102. By B. Favre on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Put him in a plastic bubble,

  103. By Ron Utecht on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    We better sign Flynn for next year. You know Rogers has a broken collarbone and won’t be cleared to play by then.
    But we will get back to you on Wednesday

  104. By James M. on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    I want Rodgers to play, I am upset that he’s not. This game determines everything up to this week. Like Flynn said, the playoffs started two weeks ago. But that’s just my opinion! So roll out the troll comments.

  105. By dave MD on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Risk/ benefit ratio in favor of benefit(a win and still in) for nondisplaced clavicle fracture unless the team has not been forthcoming about the type of fracture.Is the staff afraid of being pursued legally if cleared without complete radiologic evidence of healing.Complete healing will take months, long after the snow melts in Wisconsin.Let the O line take it up a few notchs and protect him like the virgin Mary. Get him on the field.

  106. By Frank on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    This entire saga comes down to 1 thing. MONEY! The Packers want to preserve their investment in Rodgers, and don’t want to risk him reinjuring himself. The Packers organization is way to conservative when it comes to injuries. As a result, they have built a team that is soft, and is injury prone. When people dont push their bodies, and don’t customize themselves to contact, you have a bunch of players with constant nagging injuries (especially hamstring injuries). If you think I’m wrong, just look at it this way. The Packers by report, have the leaset amount of contact in practices, trying to save them fom injury, yet for the last 3-5 years, they have the most injuries of any team in the NFL. Coincidence? I think not. I believe that they are planning on sitting Rodgers for the entire season. If that’s the case, the Packers season ticket holders should ask for their money back. Afterall, they are not trying to win it all this year. That’s obvious!

  107. By JZ on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    MM, ” As an organization, we feel we are not ready for him to play. He is not medically cleared,” This comment is BS! As of Wed the comments were there was hope. There was no hope on Wed it was all BS. I’m sick of being misled by this organization.

  108. By B. Favre on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    This is a playoff game!

  109. By B. Favre on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Start Tolzien i don’t want Flynn to get hurt!

  110. By northerner on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Too bad this whole thing with Rodgers has turned into a soap box. No one really knows or if they do they aren’t telling the fans who pay the bills. Something is wrong with that. The PR coming out of the Packers sounds to be a lot of BS which could be compared to our current administration in Washington, D.C.

  111. By obhtn3 on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Hey Diddle Diddle…just run Eddie up the middle!

  112. By B. Favre on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Sounds like a Bernanke press conference!

  113. By Mark Groves on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Rogers is out, and the GBP Front Office is OUT OF ITS MIND. In life there is past, present and future. The time that matters most – really the only time that ANYTHING can be accomplished — is the present moment. And . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
    now its gone.

    The Front Office committee of milquetoasts has badly miscalculated. The whole point of playing the game and being fans of the game (or of life) is TO LIVE IN THE NOW. The Front Office quit on the players and the fans today, that is how they lived the now. They’ll have little luck living that legacy down, players and fans are stained by their cowardly leadership.

  114. By tdaily4 on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    TT did not think they could without Rodgers and was waiting for them to out of it so he could shelve him for the rest of the season. Now they find themselves in a tight spot because if Packers win this weekend and bears win or lose it will set up a showdown for the division next weekend. I will be curious to what happens next week after the packers win this weekend and can win the division.

  115. By mac on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Say what you will about #4….but he’d be playing!

  116. By DAPAKRZ on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    I’m not going to criticize anyone for not playing a player who is hurt but No Arm is right. Flynn has no arm. Jordy, James and Jarred are ALL going to get hurt pluckin’ ducks out of the air….Troy P. will think he’s a fat kid at a free buffet.

  117. By B. Favre on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Long live Ron Wolf!

  118. By B. Favre on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    TT is senile!

  119. By PatMan on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Posts aren’t working….

  120. By B. Favre on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Is Joe Namath available?

  121. By Pat Stapleton on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    It’s better to have Rogers healthy in a playoff game (it they get there) than to take a Chance on him getting hurt and being out who knows how long. Flynn surprised both us and the cowboy’s last week. He can do it again.

  122. By PatMan on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Clealry a schism between McCarthy and the deer in the headlights GM is in full force. Unfortunately McCarthy has to take the bullet for mediaphobe GM and his pal Dr. McPanzie.

    What is frustrating here is the bungling of the mesage the Packers are sending, Why does McCarthy twice state that Rodgers look and feels great, but yet Dr. McPanzie says otherwise.

    The coach leads us to beleive there is hope – but there isn’t. Something funky going around the front office.

  123. By B. Favre on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Pat…this is a playoff game!

  124. By DAPAKRZ on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    As far as the Mike and Ted are senile crowd is concerned, the decision is probably even above them. McCarthy is a solider. He’s just takin’ orders on this one…

    And who knows, maybe the crackheads in Vegas are right and Green Bay will pull this one out….(Although I’m still not sure whether you get that half a point by runnin’ or kickin’).

    But, I sure wish we could play with this game with the one-armed man rather than the rubber band armed man….

    Oh, and B. Favre…I thought I read where it was you who was currently experiencing ongoing, “concussion like symptoms” rather than TT…Who knows…Maybe I’m just confused…It happens a lot at my age…

  125. By Dan on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Someone needs to be fired. If the water boy is making the decision let’s fire him.

  126. By Water boy on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    I need this job…it’s Ted’s fault!

  127. By Geordie Nelson on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    “Geordie, I guess you will hate Packers more if they let Rodgers plays and re-injured the same bone and out for at least 18 months.”

    No this is part of playing the game. Rule him out at the start of the week. I would have more respect for the organization if they didn’t mislead the fans every week. I hate having smoke blown up my backside. McCarthy is really starting to make me sick. But then again I feel sorry that he’s being elected as the talking head for this once proud football team.

  128. By Smell my finger on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Agreed Geordie!

  129. By Fred Beam on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    This is all TT he is in total charge of all decisions regarding this and all personal, thats why Brad Jones is playing linebacker. I thought A Rod would start for sure, and get the rust off, then next week go in and beat the Bears for the division, then on to the playoffs and who knows what could have happened after that, it could have been a miricle season, A Rod and Cobb both back and the defence coming up with key turnovers, what a shame, I say , Packer fans let;s run TT out of town.

  130. By DAPAKRZ on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply


    Without Rodgers the NFL should just declare the NFC north “vacant” and give our playoff spot to another team more worthy…like, maybe, Jacksonville…..

  131. By Aaron's collarbone on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    I am fully healed, this is B.S!

  132. By Aaron's collarbone on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    8 weeks!

  133. By Shane54 on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Yeah, the “organization” huh?

    What Mike don’t want to say is there is no way they are putting AR behind that terrible o line.

    Clearly this staff does not care about winning. Or getting to the play-offs. Tickets are sold, jerseys are selling, The money is coming in. That’s all they care about. Disgraceful.

    We, as the fans, are the ones paying the bills, and I for one, DEMAND A BETTER EXPLANATION!!

    I want to know who made this decision. Mike? The doctor? Ted? Mark? All of them? None of them? Who.

    This is a crock of ship.

  134. By Geordie Nelson on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    I’m throwing a hundo on a Pittsburgh Steelers masacre this week. Pitt by 8+ points easily. Take that to the bank. Take Pittsburgh on Point Spread and take the under. Green Bay loses 19-10 and the game vs Chicago next week means nothing to GB. All the pride this team had went down when they announced Rodgers is out this weekend (despite practicing and throwing lasers all week. Put the kid in a dammed uniform. If he’s that tough, put him on the bench and psych the team up. Remember how motivated Rodgers was when he sat behind Favre. Put him on the bench behind Flynn and take the reigns off next week. Just having him on the bench in uniform changes the game…..

  135. By Joe Flacco's knee on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Are you kidding me?

  136. By Lacy's ankle on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    C’mon man!

  137. By Favre's broken thumb on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply


  138. By natureman55 on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Its time to get a second opinion and a new team Doctor. Rodgers injury was only a crack and 7 weeks is more then enough time to heal to the point of being able to play. Just remember a losss Sunday and the season is over. I am losing confidence in the leadership of this organization.

  139. By Cutler's groin on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply


  140. By Lee on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    What in the world is the matter with you people! It’s just a game – entertainment – and a business…. I am a fan, but I have no interest, and no expertise or special insight into the decisions the Packers make in their efforts to optimize the team’s value. Neither do any of you…… That’s managment’s job, and they have proven remarkably successful over the years.

    So, lighten up, and enjoy the Holiday season. Remember, the NFL and the Packers are nothing more than entertainment…. Don’t confuse them for something important….

  141. By Cutler's groin on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    You are funny Lee!

  142. By Eric on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    LOL to the person who said if Rodgers plays and re breaks the collarbone and is out 18 weeks. Since when is a broken collarbone and surgery cause an 18 week rehab. A broken callerbone and surgery ia a 8 to 10 week rehab tops even if he re injured it he would be back in plenty of time for preseason and next year this is just playing it too careful and is why this team has the most injuries every year. These players are babied by an over cautious doctor and that’s why they are always injured every year. Any little hurt and they are declared out and never learn to play w little hurts like most players in the NFL. Most injuries of any team in football is cause the GB doctors don’t let their players play when most other teams will. Sam w Cob he is practicing at full speed and contact drills yet he is still on injured reserve how does that make any sense?

  143. By closeoutcorral on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Best Wishes Aaron! Hope you recover fully! I think it is important for you to heal properly than for you to risk further injury. Flynn has been okay and with the strength of the other players, has pulled off a couple wins, barely and very sloppy, but wins! So that’s all that counts! Go Pack Go!

  144. By Debbie Downer on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    (Veester, consider the possibility that my name is a tip-off that my posting is a gag and a parody on the serious doom-and-gloomers here. Now back to our reularly scheduled programming.)

    All is lost…Rodgers will never play again…CMIII will be trampled by a berserk bull moose…

  145. By Cutler's groin on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Hi Debbie!

  146. By Peyton's neck on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Enough said!

  147. By Gary on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Are you kidding me??? Not that I didn’t expect this news today but… Since when does someone sit out if they look good in practice, say they feel good, and want to play when the season is on the line. You Favre haters can say what you want but Brett would have been playing against the Eagles. He never missed a game and how many times did he play with a significant injury? How about Reggie and his torn tricep??? Wasn’t McKenzie the doctor for the team then too??? Something is just not right here. If you feel you can play, especially in the situation the Pack is in, you tell the coach and doctor to go have a cup of coffee or something and kiss your backside because you are playing!!! I wouldn’t want to see anybody get re-injured especially AR but if he gets hurt again, it is a SEASON ENDING injury not career ending. Guess what? If we lose Sunday (and for the record, I believe we can win with Flynn at QB) and the Bears and/or Lions win nobody has to worry about a season ending injury because the season will be over!!!

  148. By PF on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    After reading some of these comments I just don’t know any more….

  149. By Aaron's collarbone on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Gary, I need to be ready for golf season!

  150. By dave MD on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    let golf season begin!

  151. By Aaron's collarbone on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    I need clearance!

  152. By Gary on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Aaron’s collarbone and dave MD, I hear ya

  153. By Aaron's mother on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    I trained my boy to stand tall like a man. Let him play!

  154. By Aaron's collarbone on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    I just don’t want to risk re injury…you know all the pseudo docs on this board say it could be career ending!

  155. By Gary on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    I have been a fan for over 50 years (and I am a stockholder). I have gone through the bottom of the pit times with this team. I have, do now and always will love this team and stand by them no matter what. I’m old school and just believe that no matter what, if you feel you can play and you want to play, you force those around you to get behind you and accept YOUR decision. I am not accussing anyone or trying to bad-mouth anyone but I just have to wonder who is really calling the shots on this one.

  156. By Aaron's collarbone on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Mom, I doesn’t matter. The fans still show up week after week regardless of outcome. Sold out for decades, why risk it!

  157. By Aaron's collarbone on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply


  158. By Aaron's collarbone on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    That’s what Ted tells me!

  159. By Randy Wright on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    They sold out to watch me play!

  160. By David Whitehurst on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    And me!

  161. By DarwinsMyth on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    @ Marty…. Save him for the Bears? If the Pack loses to the Steelers, and the Bears win, the game in Chicago will be worthless.

  162. By Gary on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    My mistake in an earlier post. The Lions would have to win both and the Pack would have to lose both for the Lions to beat us for the division. However, we need to beat the Steelers because I am a life-long fan of the Pack born and raised in Eagles country (and believe me, everything you’ve heard about most Eagle fans is true!!! Most of my friends are those obnoxious, nasty,jack— Eagle fans you read about). Believe it or not, I would rather root for the Bears Sunday night than have to root for the Eagles!!!

  163. By Matt Flynn on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    HhhhWwwwhhhat? I’m in it to win it! If I can convince the defense and O-line to attend the game Sunday I’ll be fine.

  164. By NlG£RlAQU£$T on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    bloody diapers, urine luck!

  165. By Gina on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    upto I looked at the check which was of $5217, I accept …that…my best friend woz like they say realy taking home money in their spare time at their computer.. there aunt had bean doing this for only about 22 months and resantly cleard the loans on there villa and got a gorgeous Honda NSX. check this………. http://gg.gg/v2a9

  166. By Chopper on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Enough with the conspiracy theories you clowns. The guy is hurt. That’s it. Stop whining or stop watching.

  167. By Gasman on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    We got no food…we got no jobs…our pets heads are falling off!

  168. By Gasman on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Oh ok Chopper!

  169. By milhouse on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    After losing Rodgers the Pack looked horrible. Amazing how 1 player can mask a teams deficiencies both offensively and defensively. TT prides himself with being a draft guru and when Arod went down his team looked bad. TT is now out to prove that “His team” made up of all of his draft picks with the exception of 1 or 2 fa”s can make it to the playoffs.He hit a Homerun by drafting Rodgers but is he really as good as everyone thinks he is?I believe he had the final decision on Rodgers and his ego got in the way.The only way to redeem himself is by showing that the Packers can win out and make the playoffs without Rodgers because “His Team” is really all that. News Flash…. They don’t make it !!!!

  170. By Kyle on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    The Brett Favre comment was not stupid. Does anyone remember when they said he was shooting for return Thanksgiving!?

  171. By Gasman on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Milhouse….with all due respect, Rodgers fell into his lap!

  172. By Viagra on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    This is HARD to swallow!

  173. By willber on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Pat Staplton, I don’t think they are going to let him play this year at all. Obviously it went from being a medically cleared issue, to an organization decision. Did you notice how frustrated McCarthy was at the press conference. I remember when the team Dr. was Brusky. They ran him out of town on a rail for making the same decisions.
    After this, Dr Pat Makenzie will not be back next year.
    What kind of message are they sending to the other players who play hurt. Mark Murphey should be fired to let this happen. Go _____ Go

  174. By willber on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Millhouse, you are absolutely RIGHT!!!

  175. By J on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    I would not have a problem with Rodgers not starting if McCarthy wasn’t so f@##in arrogant in his pressers. All season long McCarthy has been nothing but curt and arrogant in all of his press conferences. Like he’s won 5 superbowls or something. The reality is even if we win this week, which is unlikely, Rodgers will not be back for the Bears game at this rate. The Steelers are not the same team that started this season and have Antonio Brown (95 rec, 1307 yds, 8 tds) who is having an amazing season. Packers defense have proven they cannot stop a guy with this ability. Yet the Ravens organization will start Flacco with an injury that would have much more dyer consequences if re-injured then a collarbone fracture. I’m sick of this 3 ring circus and BS. See ya next year.

  176. By Debbie Downer on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    “dyer” consequences?

  177. By J on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Ya know, I just came here to vent some frustration and my spelling has to be corrected? Like you don’t know what i’m talking about using dyer when I should have used dire. Go f@@@ yourself debbie downer.

  178. By Debbie Downer on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Aren’t you a sport. If you can’t laugh at you yourself, you can’t laugh at all.

  179. By ed on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Real tired of the drama Lombardi must be rolling over in his grave.It seems a pissing match for control is going on in the office.Matt has been great and the def has started to show its true self.So flynn wins sunday then what?

  180. By m d on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    tompson protecting his investment! this while he watches the playoffs without his protected qb or team

  181. By Josef Mengele on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Herr Rodgers vill play ven he iss cleared to play, you dumpkofs!

  182. By reason1265 on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Settle down everybody, 8 weeks is not a long time for this type of injury to heal properly, he isn’t going to sit at a desk and type…. 8 weeks is next week! and if GB is eliminated by then, I would absolutely sit him till next year

  183. By stan on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    they are taking a calculated risk being at home and thinking they can win without Rodgers…problem for Packer fans is if they lose we are done. If they win the whole Packer nation will expect/demand Rodgers comes back for week 17 to have a CHANCE at getting into the playoffs and maybe make another run. Anything less is a downer for Packer fans!

  184. By Shenky on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Do the Packers see themselves as a threat if they were to make the playoffs? Are they protecting Rodgers from getting on the field with a mediocre Packers team? If they feel his monetary value is not worth putting him on the field in unsafe conditions, then that is honestly one of the most horrid and demoralizing decisions I have ever seen as a lifetime Packers fan. Players create their legacy by performing when they are hurt, overcoming injuries, etc. I would rather see Rodgers go out there and give everything he has got like Favre did than save him for years to come. We cannot predict the future. If he is “slinging missles” and throwing well on the run, then how is he not ready to play? There is not one player in the league right now that is 100 % at this point in the season. And if they say they are, then they are lying. If Rodgers goes out and takes a sack that hurts his collarbone and impacts his career, then the blame does not go to the organization for putting him out there. It goes on the linemen who couldn’t block for him.

    On a side note to many other posts, no we do not need to draft another quarterback. Rodgers is our guy. And he will be for years to come. Matt Flynn is a capable backup who understands this organization, and he will do everything he can to get this team to the playoffs.

  185. By Gasman on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    He never had is arm in a sling…this is F*****G absurd! Non-displaced, no surgery, described as a chip and be back by Thansgiving! F.U Mike McNuggets!

  186. By Peter on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Most of you are writing like spoiled brats. The man is injured and can’t safely play. Confront it. Accept it. Love your children help a neighbor

  187. By walt on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Find a way to get rid of TT and everything will be fine. Who hired him anyway? Fire him too! And someone tell AR to get out there and play football, that’s what he was hired to do. And if he gets hurt, he’s got all spring and summer to recover.

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  189. By Tom on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    It Takes 6-8 weeks for a bone to get solid. A non injured collar bone will break with 15lbs of force in the right direction. A broken one a lot less.
    If the bone displaces it would take much longer to heal. They will not risk losing him to a more serious injury and by next week it will be solid and ready to go. We will beat the steelers and get ready for the playoffs.

  190. By Dan on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    We are not brats. In my 25 plus years of work I missed less than five days of work. In 15 plus years of work #4 missed less than that. Now we have the organization giving up on the year. I guess we will get them next year.

  191. By Mike on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Well I like the humorous funny comments , including Debbie Downers

  192. By Mike on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    the thing I don’t like is the way they string you along. Why does it take till Friday for them to say Rodgers can’t play? Why can’t they just tell you on Manday or even last week they probally knew. But no….lets just keep everyone guessing right????

  193. By Denny on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    I hope he is ready for the game against the bears. I think the would be the game to bring him back. I like Flynn but I don’t think he can beat the bears. Good luck this Sunday.

  194. By Eric377 on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Jolly’s injury is probably more significant than AR not being back this week. The offense will be productive, but how many points will the Steelers manage?

  195. By Rand McNally on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    McKenzie’ s house should really have around the clock security. A lot of people are talking really crazy. He is definitely upsetting Packer nation by deliberately tanking the season. Here is your fall guy when it all implodes. Good bye and be safe, Dr McKenzie.

  196. By walt on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Since when do players get paid to be healthy instead of playing football?? Common AR, Common man, play ball! Common TT, find a job you can handle. PS: I love Debbie.

  197. By DarwinsMyth on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    I wonder, if Rodgers gets on a uniform at half-time if the Pack is losing by 3 TDs?

    If the Pack loses this game and the Bears win the division, McCarthy will be the #1 enemy of Cheeseheads everywhere, until the Pack can come up with another Super Bowl win.

    All I keep reading is, Rodgers is throwing sharp… he’s throwing great. YET, he’s not starting. I’m not the only one who is reading about how great Rodgers is throwing in practice.

  198. By Michael Green on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    He is a franchise QB. I agree, its not worth him receiving a career ending injury. I say sit him out until the playoffs (if we make it).

  199. By Canadian Bill on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    Lot of idiots out there today

  200. By Art Vandelay on Dec 20, 2013 | Reply

    The NFL wants him to play, the TV networks want him to play, the fans want him to play, the man wants to play. Let him play, dammit!

  201. By Charles Bath on Dec 21, 2013 | Reply

    I bet the organization is trying to phase Rodgers out after signing that horrendous contract. TT must have a qb in mind to draft andt take this franchise into the next century and beyond! He may possibly trade the embattled former star in the offseason.

  202. By Brett Farve on Dec 21, 2013 | Reply

    I’ll come back and play, I have a set of balls between my legs.

    Rodgers can’t play because his pink panties are stuck on.

  203. By Bob Williams on Dec 21, 2013 | Reply

    “the organization” has determined that AR won’t play, well, my family has determined that season tickets are too expensive to go watch…..so we’ll watch on TV and wait for Rodgers hangnail to heal in the off-season…..

  204. By George Viner on Dec 21, 2013 | Reply

    Anyone have a pair of scissors, I need to cut Aaron Rodgers “depends” off, so he can attempt to put a jock on again!

  205. By Rob Thomas on Dec 21, 2013 | Reply

    Remember when football players were tough? Now they make millions and practice in pads like 15 times a season. NFL supports pink for pansy, not cancer!

  206. By John Denver's Gavel on Dec 21, 2013 | Reply

    Bring back Brett! Bring back Brett!!

  207. By John Denver's Gavel on Dec 21, 2013 | Reply

    Trade him to the Browns for Joe Thomas, Josh Gordon and TJ Ward, draft a qb and lookout!

  208. By Chopper on Dec 21, 2013 | Reply

    These are the dumbest comments ever written about anything.

  209. By goose on Dec 21, 2013 | Reply

    Of course I want to see the Pack win the division, especially since I live in Illinois=want to shut the meathead Bears fans up. But honestly, this team as it is right now would not go deep into the playoffs WITH Aaron-defense is terrible, can’t tackle, we are banged up, etc. I want these next two games bad, and we just might pull it off-not willing to risk Aaron’s future for it though. Live to fight the war next year…look out for us then. GO PACK GO!

  210. By Brian on Dec 21, 2013 | Reply

    Live to fight next year, you must have been in choir during school – you play to win or not at all in the pros. Something smells like Limburger in cheese town with all the organization garbage. Look at the Packers, Giants, and Ravens winning the Super Bowl over the last few years getting hot off of skids. You quit with the division in sight and you step down, next man up right coach. They could care less about the fans until we stop going to games and I’m not paying to watch a team without Rodgers. If he’s not ready to play, then at least put him in a sling or something, wait he never wore one that’s strange for a 7 week injury. If they loose Sunday I’m done and if they win and don’t play the man at Chicago I’m done. It’s my organizational decision, take off the panties it’s football

  211. By petermaiz on Dec 21, 2013 | Reply

    I have no problem with “in Like Flynn” starting. We the fans are fixated on the whole Rodgers issue. The big issue against Pittsburg will definitely be, Can We Stop The Run???
    Every week the answer is no except for some games at the start of the season. This issue will either give us a win or a terrible defeat. We shall see this Sunday.

  212. By Jeff on Dec 21, 2013 | Reply

    When I hear Mike McCarthy say that the organization isn’t ready for Aaron to play, I hear him saying that they will not risk their $100 million man. I’m starting to think that the medical staff is being told not to clear him, and I’m not usually a conspiracy theory guy. I get it, but we’ve got a shot here…and it’s a better shot with AR in there. Drink more milk or something.

  213. By Nikki on Dec 21, 2013 | Reply

    You guys that are putting down AR and the packs should be ashamed, Aaron Rogers is not medically cleared and I am sure if they could put him in they would, look at Jay Cutler who came back too early then was out again now back in. AR was my fantasy quarterback and he kept me in 1st place, much as I hated to see him get hurt its not his fault and why risk getting hurt again and be out for most of next season. I give them a lot of credit for making it to even having hopes in the playoffs thanks to some other teams but even still I wish them luck and show people that hey they can do it even without their STAR quarterback.

  214. By Debbie Downer on Dec 21, 2013 | Reply

    The season is circling the drain. I just knew it would happen.

  215. By Canadian Bill on Dec 21, 2013 | Reply

    Guess not too many people have faith in Flynn. Hope he shuts them up.

  216. By Kevin on Dec 21, 2013 | Reply

    Garbage decision.

  217. By Kevin on Dec 21, 2013 | Reply

    This better not be the beginning of the NFL’s answer to Grant Hill.

  218. By Debbie Downer on Dec 21, 2013 | Reply

    Bostick and Jolly done. I just knew it.

  219. By Bob Griffin III on Dec 21, 2013 | Reply

    Is he medically cleared to take a shower? What if he slips and falls? That’s a huge risk!! What if he re breaks it reaching for the telephone?? Or wiping his butt! What then?!?! If you ask me they should wrap him in bubble wrap and stick him in solitary til next year.. just to many risks that we can’t take

  220. By Shawn on Dec 21, 2013 | Reply

    Listen to the language “An organization decision”……In other words he is healthy enough but for some reasons they all are holding him out! SHAME!!!

    Ya know the SB is “Our” big pay day! Thats why we fans take it so seriously! TT and MM take home thier big pay day regardless. We fans pay thier salaries! We have a right to speak and be disgusted!

  221. By Squatch on Dec 21, 2013 | Reply

    Aaron Rodgers had a mri done the Monday before the Atlanta game. It came back, that the bone wasn’t healed yet. 10 days later, the Friday before the Dallas game he has another mri done. Still not healed. 10 more days puts it after the Pittsburgh game before he can have another mri done.
    Why is it so hard for the organization to simply say this. Why does there have to be such drama.

  222. By don welsh on Dec 21, 2013 | Reply

    someone tell the organization dr.seuss is a chidrens book author.

  223. By bacrone on Dec 21, 2013 | Reply

    when you cant dazzle them with brilliance, you baffle them with BS. GO PACK GO

  224. By bacrone on Dec 21, 2013 | Reply

    never say next year when were still standing this year, fight till the fat lady sings

  225. By bacrone on Dec 21, 2013 | Reply

    go beagles, beat the ears

  226. By willber on Dec 21, 2013 | Reply

    TT is hiding something

  227. By willber on Dec 21, 2013 | Reply

    I guess it is allright to send other players out there hurt. Did you read the article about Kevin Greene asking Mike Neal if he is O K playing hurt and they just send him back out there. I smell something really bad. This is going to blow up on the Packers

  228. By Debbie Downer on Dec 21, 2013 | Reply

    Just in: Matt Flynn was trampled by a berserk bull moose in his driveway while shoveling snow. It’s Tolzien.

  229. By Ferdings on Dec 21, 2013 | Reply

    he is an ADMITTED!


    I heard down chicagy way

  230. By Frank on Dec 21, 2013 | Reply

    Oh how the sentiment has changed on this board. I was getting my head ripped off for questioning “The Organization” and Rodgers toughness. Still a Packer fan for life but glad to see people waking up…maybe Greg Jennings was right!

  231. By Gasman on Dec 21, 2013 | Reply

    Oh no Debbie…we need to rest Tolzien…what if gets hurt playing football?

  232. By Frank on Dec 21, 2013 | Reply

    Jennings made brainwashing comments regarding the organization. Press conferences are a little cult like with respect to the cryptic language and evasive posturing by MM.

  233. By Ferdings on Dec 21, 2013 | Reply

    rodgers will be 31 next year. he has a few good years left MAYBE. this is bizarre.

  234. By Frank on Dec 21, 2013 | Reply

    Since this is a business like so many expert Packer defenders on this board constantly point out, I say trade Rodgers…move up in the draft instead of down like TT is known for….draft a QB…dump his salary to free up cap space and rebuild the pathetic defense! Purely a business decision since he is so fragile why RISK re-injury!

  235. By packfan on Dec 21, 2013 | Reply

    I wonder how many people whining about 12 not playing are actually pissed because he’s not putting up fantasy numbers? And we all know fantasy football is the real money maker now…

  236. By bacrone on Dec 21, 2013 | Reply

    censorship bites

  237. By Frank on Dec 21, 2013 | Reply

    I feel your pain bacrone.

  238. By Bababooey on Dec 21, 2013 | Reply

    Debbie, is it safe for Aaron to hold a clipboard?

  239. By Bababooey on Dec 21, 2013 | Reply

    Bacrone=Rick S.

  240. By bacrone on Dec 21, 2013 | Reply

    what kind of pos blog bars a reply because a word with he at the beginning and ll at the end is used. die censors

  241. By bacrone on Dec 21, 2013 | Reply

    wtf pos gth mfer cksr

  242. By bacrone on Dec 21, 2013 | Reply


  243. By bacrone on Dec 21, 2013 | Reply

    uh oh might get a fine from word police

  244. By bacrone on Dec 21, 2013 | Reply

    who is rick s ??????? should i be mad someone tell me pleeeeeeeeese

  245. By Debbie Downer on Dec 21, 2013 | Reply

    Debbie Downer = Rick S. = Rick1959

  246. By Debbie Downer on Dec 21, 2013 | Reply

    Rodgers will never play again. There is nothing more for us.

  247. By bacrone on Dec 21, 2013 | Reply

    debbie does dallas downer dont know diddlie

  248. By Debbie Downer on Dec 21, 2013 | Reply

    All of the players in their contract years will leave. Lambeau Field will move to Kentucky. Wide load down I-43.

  249. By Phyllis on Dec 21, 2013 | Reply

    I knew it Rick!

  250. By MikeMcspinMaster on Dec 21, 2013 | Reply

    Aaron looks good holding a clipboard, he held it well, limited in holding it, will hold it some more tomorrow, showed good holding skills, looked sharp holding it, more holding each day, workin up to more holdin, it frustrating, he is frustrate, I’m hungry! Gotta go eat!

  251. By MikeMcspinMaster on Dec 21, 2013 | Reply

    Aaron will progress from holding the clipboard to holding my lunch!

  252. By MikeMcspinMaster on Dec 21, 2013 | Reply

    Finkle is Einhorn…Einhorn is Finkle!

  253. By In cheese we trust on Dec 21, 2013 | Reply

    Wonder how many of these people who keep squawking about, oh geez Rodgers should be in that game by now, really six weeks, 7 weeks… Have ever dealt with a broken collarbone?!

  254. By thebull42 on Dec 21, 2013 | Reply

    This looks like a TT decision, based on MM’s press conference. I really hoped for AR to start this week, to get the rust off for the Bears. I think at this point, 7+ weeks into it, he should play if he wants to. According to the reports it wasn’t a break, just a chip. If it wasn’t healed 100%, he wants to play, play him. Even if he snaps it in half playing when he comes back, it’s his non-throwing shoulder and 9 months would be more than enough to heal. AR knows the risk. Collar bone fractures are not that common for a QB anyway. The forces in action on hits to QB’s usually aren’t in the right direction to cause the force needed to fracture a collar bone. Most of the collar bone fractures in the NFL are to defensive players leading a very strong tackle with their shoulder, and that doesn’t even happen often, to a couple players a year on a bad year. The hit that took AR out wasn’t common, they usually are just flatten on they’re back or side, just unusual to have the shoulder pulled under like that while falling to the ground. It’s a one and 10,000+ hit, 32 QB’s take 100’s of snaps year without breaking their collarbone.

    That being said, I’m fulling behind Flynn. Go Pack! GO!!! We can still do this! I just hope TT isn’t calling it a year already. Even if AR broke his collar bone in half and needed to bolt it back together, since it’s to his non-throwing shoulder, it would be very unlikely for him to even miss a preseason game, let alone be career ending. I defended TT the entire Favre saga as my family was split on the issue. I would lose almost all respect for TT because, “Winning is not everything, it’s the ONLY thing!”
    Go Pack! GO!!!

  255. By gman7 on Dec 21, 2013 | Reply

    So which was it. The organization, meaning management, declared Rodgers out, or the doctor. If management, the Board needs to remind them the objective is to win not just to show up on game day. That means playing your best without implying any disrespect to Flynn who has done well on short notice. The winning heritage of the Packers is on the line.

  256. By thebull42 on Dec 21, 2013 | Reply

    He wants to play. He’s not in pain. He’s has full mobility, according to reports. I obviously haven’t seen an x-Ray and definitely am not a Dr and haven’t broken my collar bone before. I’ve shattered my patella (knee cap) into 7 free-floating pieces, and it only 8 weeks to heal. Had a bone chip in my ankle that sounds similar to the type of chip he has in his collar bone, took only 3 weeks. But the main thing is, he wants to play. He should have a say. Many on our roster are starting still with considerable injuries, and the front office isn’t interested in protecting their future, just their $25 million man, and he doesn’t even want the protection. I mean, A Rodg isn’t Cutler, he wants to play.

  257. By thebull42 on Dec 21, 2013 | Reply

    I think it’s TT decision with support from Dr Mackenzie. MM in Friday’s press conference didn’t seem too happy about it. Winning is the only thing the league is about. It’s just hard as a fan, playing without AR because we control our own destiny. It doesn’t help seeing glimpses of the ’10 push for the playoffs, in the last 2 games. Regardless, Go Pack! GO!!! Flynn the man tomorrow and he can get it done!

  258. By Brian on Dec 21, 2013 | Reply

    Ted Thompson made the final decision according to Pro Football Weekly inside source that’s what I heard today.

  259. By Larry Kaiser on Dec 21, 2013 | Reply

    The Pack wins with Flynn tomorrow….Rodgers plays next weekend against Da Bears….Cobb comes back for the playoffs….Life is goooooooood!

  260. By Omahasky on Dec 21, 2013 | Reply

    Its been 7 weeks, there are 2 weeks left to survive, its all on the line now, there is a slight risk of re-injury.

    Now it is clear: YES, YOU DO RISK RE-INJURY NOW

  261. By Rudy Medina on Dec 21, 2013 | Reply

    And us Packer fans made fun about Cutler, the Rodgers jokes are coming soon now….

    Lombardi is rolling in his grave at how soft the Packers have become!

  262. By jdg on Dec 22, 2013 | Reply

    Ever hear of quality of life? You are cold hearted. You say throw him out there for 60 minutes and risk him having pain all offseason. Who cares if he can’t sleep or roll over or drive his car. A football game isn’t all there is. Get your head out of your butt.

  263. By Omahasky on Dec 22, 2013 | Reply

    Actually for AR for the next 2 weeks, a football games IS ALL THERE IS

    Ask Lacy and Matthews about playing with pain and risk.

  264. By goose on Dec 22, 2013 | Reply

    Brian, declaring you are done over this would indicate a lack of loyalty….I agree with you that football is going soft, yet it is still the greatest sport to watch and I will always stay true to the Pack even when I don’t agree with decisions made, and our defense can’t tackle. GO PACK GO!

  265. By Debbie Downer on Dec 22, 2013 | Reply

    The team buses will lost in the blizzard and end up in Rhinelander at kickoff.

  266. By James M. on Dec 22, 2013 | Reply

    Did Rodgers ever wear a brace and sling to fully immobilize his injury? Maybe this is why its not healing!!! Or did he even have to because it wasn’t a fracture at all.

  267. By James M. on Dec 22, 2013 | Reply

    I watched him run back onto the field playing the Bears in a sweatshirt and nothing to restrain his injury. Hmmmmm.

  268. By James M. on Dec 22, 2013 | Reply

    Total management calls these past couple weeks over something that either should have been taken care of by a doctor like prescribing a restraining harness and shoulder sling, or telling the fans the actual truth that it isn’t a fracture at all. Because if it was a cracked bone, that doc should be let go.

  269. By James M. on Dec 22, 2013 | Reply

    News flash… Green Bay physicians invent a new form of orthosis. Nothing at all.

  270. By James M. on Dec 22, 2013 | Reply

    And no I’m not a doctor for all the haters, but I can do research on a clavicle fracture and what it takes for it to heal right.

  271. By Rob Tolstoy on Dec 22, 2013 | Reply

    They’re saving him for the Bears/playoffs. It’s a smart move. Psychology. It’ll provide a huge team pump to drive the Pack all the way to the SB.

  272. By tim on Dec 22, 2013 | Reply

    Can’t wait till Rogers comes back good luck today GB

  273. By NCT from Philly on Dec 22, 2013 | Reply

    You can’t compare Brett and Aaron. They are so opposite from each another.Different mind-set,different philosophy, different players. Like it or not Brett would have been playing the last 2 games. That was the type of player he was. Obviously AR needs to heal and the Packers need to deal with the situation and make the best of a bad situation. It would help Flynn a whole lot if he knew the fans and the organisation were behind him. Go Pack Go.

  274. By Jay on Dec 22, 2013 | Reply

    Even Mike Tomlin couldn’t make the Packers coaching staff look competent.

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